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From d...@multitask.com.au
Subject RE: [JJAR] Status? Jar Repository?
Date Tue, 16 Apr 2002 22:58:05 GMT
"Scott Sanders" <ssanders@nextance.com> wrote on 17/04/2002 07:32:44 AM:

> Gier is correct.  In the end jjar gets jars.  Maven is an entire build
> methodology. JJAR is a tool, with no meaning unless used in a larger
> context.

Thanks for clearing that up. I was really confused :-) I was just about to 
check out the build process in JJar....

> 
> Maven could be a consumer of JJAR's work.
And vice versa. JJar could use Maven to get it going faster....

> 
> Scott (Waiting for those jjar commits ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geirm@optonline.net] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:19 PM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > Subject: Re: [JJAR] Status? Jar Repository?
> > 
> > 
> > On 4/16/02 5:18 PM, "dion@multitask.com.au" 
> > <dion@multitask.com.au> wrote:
> > 
> > > Henri Yandell <bayard@generationjava.com> wrote on 
> > 17/04/2002 12:08:06 
> > > AM:
> > > 
> > >> 
> > >> I think we're working towards having a real problem towards the 
> > >> consumer as to the difference between Maven and Jjar and why there 
> > >> are two tools with such an overlap.
> > >> 
> > >> I'd recently flipped my 'consumer' demands over to Maven. 
> > Do you see 
> > >> any forseeable solutions?
> > > Choice.
> > > 
> > > At the moment Maven is a lot wider scope than JJar, and a lot more 
> > > mature.
> > > 
> > 
> > That's like saying Tomcat is a lot wider scope than Ant and a 
> > lot more mature. :)
> > 
> > My point is that we are comparing apples to oranges - they 
> > aren't intended to solve the same problem.  Yes, Maven needs 
> > to know about dependencies and have jars to satisfy the 
> > dependencies, but so does a classloader...
> > 
> > Here's a limited list of what maven does, and given the 
> > development frenzy surrounding it, I can say this is accurate 
> > only as of 17:18EST 20020416 :
> > 
> > *    Change log document created directly from repository information.
> > *    Cross referenced sources
> > *    Source metrics
> > *    Mailing lists
> > *    Developer list
> > *    Dependency list
> > *    Unit test reports including coverage
> > *    Article Collection
> > *    Software Development References
> > *    Software Development Process Documentation
> > *    Distribution publication based on the POM.
> > 
> > JJAR gets jars and dependency jars.  That's it.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Geir Magnusson Jr. 
> > geirm@optonline.net
> > System and Software Consulting
> > 
> > The cost of synchronization is much less that the cost of stupidity.
> > 
--
dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
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