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From "otisg" <>
Subject Re: [pool] PROPOSAL: add collecting of statistics to pool implementations
Date Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:07:43 GMT

> If Avalon is a macro view made up of micro components, and Commons is
> micro components, when will we hit a stage where we have a redundant
> micro-components project, and how should this be dealt with?
> My definition of macro vs micro is probably best expressed as giving
> someone a lego kit in a box versus giving someone lots of lego bricks.
> the former there is a defined way to build the system, though you can
> with it. In the latter it's entirely up to you.

This is an obvious question to ask.
If Excalibur, which is a part of Avalon, is a set of micro components,
why nor merge them with Commons? From another email I see that a group
of people (Avalon) already tried doing that a while ago, but failed, so
Commons was created.

While Avalon and Excalibur may predate Commons, I think we would do
non-Jakarta developers and Jakarta software users, and maybe even other
Jakarta developers, a favour by merging code, and merging it into
Commons. I say into Commons because I think that this would be more
logical and obvious to users. Perhaps it's just a more straight forward
nomenclature. The name 'Excalibur', which is a part of something even
bigger and equally vague, Avalon, does not tell me much about its
content, whereas Commons does. As a side note, I always thought
Excalibur was a poor choice because it makes me think of Excalibur
Retrievalware or whatever that product is called exactly.

I don't want to start a long discussion, I'm just wondering what's the
reason that hasn't or can't be done, or to put it more positively, how
we can get that done.

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