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From "Jason R Lee" <>
Subject RE: Db bean issue
Date Mon, 11 Mar 2002 23:15:46 GMT
Hmm, actually I spent some time this week with jetspeed/turbine/torque and, well, I kinda felt
that I was looking from something that I could 'plug-in' vs. a development framework.

Altho, Turbine wld i guess match my comment of a 'struts for the backend', I guess I need
to narrow it down more towards a specific bean <-> database persistence framework.

I am checking out tho, the other 2 links that were sent earlier.

Thanks to all

-----Original Message-----
From:	John McNally []
Sent:	Mon 3/11/2002 2:59 PM
To:	Jakarta Commons Developers List
Subject:	Re: Db bean issue

john mcnally

Jason R Lee wrote:
> Hello anyone who's out there,
> I have an 'issue' that is rearing its head again and wld like to get anyones take on
it. It concerns beans & db and the lack (or maybe not) of a kinda jakarta proj/framework
like struts, but addresses the back end.
> I know, there's EJB, etc... But, after working on EJB and non-EJB projects, I'm not convinved
EJB is any more scalable or distributable than a good implementation of data aware beans -
or something along those lines.
> I helped design a quite popular, big air travel site that took a non-EJB approach and
worked well and scaled across 15 Sun boxes without a hitch. However, the implementation was
a little complex and now that I'm working on another project, I'd like to have the same thing
at a simpler level.
> So I guess I'm just kinda saying hi to the Commons proj and trying to see if anyone has
thought about this issue. Especially since there is no Jakarta sub-project or Commons portion
addressing this issue.
> Thanks and hi,
> - Jason
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