Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 51890 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2002 23:45:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Feb 2002 23:45:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 29606 invoked by uid 97); 1 Feb 2002 23:45:27 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 29591 invoked by uid 97); 1 Feb 2002 23:45:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 29580 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2002 23:45:25 -0000 Importance: Normal Sensitivity: Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: From: "Sam Ruby" Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 18:44:55 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D04NM201/04/M/IBM(Release 5.0.9 |November 16, 2001) at 02/01/2002 06:45:09 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Ted Husted wrote: > > The true fact is the PMC Chair has total authority over the Jakareta > codebase, and can drop anyone's access anytime. The votes are an > important courtesy, like a jury trial, but the ASF can set aside our > verdict any time they choose. Technically true. But in practice it is the other way around. As long as I have any say, the PMC will only be a veto of last resort; and in every other circumstance, it will be ONLY the committers votes that count. > But hopefully, we will continue to elect sane Chairs who will do the > Right Thing and not meddle. So when do we start? ;-) - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: