Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 6747 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2002 23:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Feb 2002 23:26:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 23110 invoked by uid 97); 2 Feb 2002 23:26:24 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 23094 invoked by uid 97); 2 Feb 2002 23:26:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 23083 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2002 23:26:23 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Paulo Gaspar" To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Subject: RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 00:42:37 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I am already a convert. If you keep writing this kind of stuff I will soon become an enthusiast of this line of reasoning and start preaching to the masses too. =;o) Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -----Original Message----- > From: costinm@covalent.net [mailto:costinm@covalent.net] > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 12:09 AM > > ... > > Choosing to participate is what you do by sending feedback on > commons-logger, or looking at the code and saying its ready for a release > or not, or reviewing the commits and sending a -1 if something is wrong. > > Or monitoring a component your project depends on and getting involved > ( by vetoing incompatible changes ) if something is wrong. > > You are saying simple users ( even if those simple users are jakarta > commiters ) can't vote. I'm saying they do vote anyway - > for example by duplicating the code ( and creating yet another DB pool > or logger ). And by making sure the rules are set so their > opinion matters as much as that of the original developers we > may get them to trust the common component. If you don't > trust other jakarta commiters, why should they trust you ? > > > Costin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: