Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 51087 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2002 23:43:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Feb 2002 23:43:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 28182 invoked by uid 97); 1 Feb 2002 23:43:57 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 28148 invoked by uid 97); 1 Feb 2002 23:43:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 28137 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2002 23:43:56 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:38:31 -0800 Message-ID: <458473676F1AC74A84EAB2F22004DA6D1B1FCB@mail.nextance.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release Thread-Index: AcGreWVC+gEMCoO7QAGG4nxbE9WefQAACJgA From: "Scott Sanders" To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > -----Original Message----- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geirm@optonline.net]=20 > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 3:42 PM > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List > Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release >=20 >=20 > On 2/1/02 6:34 PM, "Peter Donald" wrote: >=20 > > On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 09:31, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > >>> Avalon is no more or less coherent than Commons. > >>=20 > >> Really - you are saying that the parts of Avalon have no organized=20 > >> relationship? Or that the relationships are *exactly=20 > equal* to that=20 > >> of the organized relationships in Commons? > >=20 > > Im saying the relationship between components is determined by the=20 > > people who write the components. For instance in Commons we=20 > have the=20 > > Digester that uses the BeanUtils which uses Logging. In=20 > Avalon We have=20 > > the thread pool that uses the pool object that uses the Logger. (I=20 > > don't know if either of these relationships is accurate but you get=20 > > the picture). Some components have more dependencies, while=20 > some have=20 > > none. >=20 >=20 > Another approach :=20 >=20 > Is there a framework in avalon, and components to work within=20 > that framework? Yes. Scott >=20 > --=20 > Geir Magnusson Jr. =20 > geirm@optonline.net > System and Software Consulting > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little=20 > temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -=20 > Benjamin Franklin >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: =20 > unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org> > For=20 > additional commands,=20 > e-mail: >=20 >=20 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: