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From "Scott Sanders" <ssand...@nextance.com>
Subject RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
Date Fri, 01 Feb 2002 22:52:02 GMT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geirm@optonline.net] 
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:51 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
> 
> 
> On 2/1/02 5:50 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de> wrote:
> 
> > Answer inline:
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Scott Sanders [mailto:ssanders@nextance.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:15 PM
> >> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geirm@optonline.net]
> >>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:04 PM
> >>> 
> >>> ...
> >>> And that's the problem that I think peter is pointing out - that 
> >>> people can have binding votes on projects that they have 
> nothing to 
> >>> do with...
> >> 
> >> Peter probably has nothing to do with some of the server 
> components 
> >> in Avalon, but he has a binding vote for them.  How is 
> that resolved?  
> >> That is the same problem.
> > 
> > Life in Avalon is quite different and much less problematic. The 
> > framework focus seems to enforce a more homogeneous culture and 
> > consensus is easier. (Although there is still a lot of room for 
> > discussion and competing solutions.)
> 
> Whoa!  I don't understand.  You say there is a framework 
> focus, and Peter and Scott say that Avalon is no more 
> cohesive a set of components than Commons, which has no 
> framework focus.
> 
> Help me out here...

Focus on a paradigm != cohesiveness.  Avalon has several
projects/components as does commons.  Commons allows any committer to do
anything.  So does Avalon.  They are the same from these standpoints.

The focus on framework does not exist in Commons, which is the biggest
difference.

Scott

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> Geir Magnusson Jr.                                     
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