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From "Scott Sanders" <ssand...@nextance.com>
Subject RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
Date Fri, 01 Feb 2002 22:50:34 GMT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geirm@optonline.net] 
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:53 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
> 
> 
> On 2/1/02 5:45 PM, "Scott Sanders" <ssanders@nextance.com> wrote:
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geirm@optonline.net]
> >> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:49 PM
> >> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> >> Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 2/1/02 5:32 PM, "Scott Sanders" <ssanders@nextance.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Peter Donald [mailto:peter@apache.org]
> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:21 PM
> >>>> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 08:48, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >>>>>> Peter probably has nothing to do with some of the server
> >>>> components
> >>>>>> in Avalon, but he has a binding vote for them.  How is that

> >>>>>> resolved?  That is the same problem.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>  I don't know enough about Avalon and Peter's role.
> >>>> Doesn't seem to
> >>>>> be the same problem if they are making a coherent server
> >> framework.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Avalon is no more or less coherent than Commons.
> >>> 
> >>> Exactly.
> >> 
> >> So let me play along with this : you both then agree there is
> >> *zero* point to Commons?  Both have
> >> 
> >> 1) One committer pool.
> >> 
> >> 2) Separate, unrelated collection of Java components?
> >> 
> >> ?
> > 
> > Yes.  Why should there be more than one community, unless that 
> > community can't 'get along'?
> > 
> 
> A sensible argument in the situation where you have two 
> established communities.
> 
> However, Avalon existed before commons.....  Why didn't we 
> just work in Avalon again?

I would, if we didn't lose anyone contributing in the process, but I
think that we would.

> 
> 
> -- 
> Geir Magnusson Jr.                       geirm@optonline.net
> System and Software Consulting
> You're going to end up getting pissed at your software
> anyway, so you might as well not pay for it. Try Open Source.
> 
> 
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