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From Lavandowska <>
Subject Re: Commons-CVS (was [Proposal] Commons-User ...)
Date Tue, 05 Feb 2002 17:29:49 GMT
I agree with much of what Berin states below (that I don't always want
to see cvs commits, but that there are good follow-up emails to them).

By filtering my jakarta lists using "-cvs" on the To: & CC: I send them
all off to a seperate folder.  They are thus contextualized for

Just a suggestion (and my $0.02)


--- Berin Loritsch <> wrote:
> Michael A. Smith wrote:
> > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 wrote:
> > As for the cvs commit messages...
> > 
> > Developers are theoretically supposed to review cvs commits since
> each
> > commit is a product change and subject to lazy consensus (I think
> everyone
> > agrees to that).  As such, I think it's appropriate to have cvs
> commit
> > messages sent to the dev list.  After all, the dev list is for
> developers.
> Understood, but there are lurkers who may consider committing.  I for
> one
> don't need to see the commit messages.  When I get to the point of
> actually
> needing to see them I would subscribe to the cvs list.
> > For what reason are you interested in being on the dev list, but
> not 
> > interested in seeing the commit messages?  maybe that would offer a
> > compelling argument as to moving the cvs messages to a different
> list.  
> I may want to be on the developers list to discuss issues surrounding
> moving
> components into the commons repository--but may not be totally
> convinced
> that is where they should go.  After discussing the issues on the
> list,
> I may come to the point of actually wanting to see the CVS list, but
> not before then.
> Furthermore, when I am trying to follow a thread, I have to sift
> through
> dozens of commit messages.  I typically delete them in groups since
> that is
> how they hit the list.  On occasion I have inadvertently deleted a
> response
> that was beneficial to me.
> It's extra noise that lurkers don't need/want, and many times lurkers
> become users/developers (it happened a few times on the Avalon
> project already).

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