Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 97951 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 15:16:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 15:16:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 21992 invoked by uid 97); 4 Jan 2002 15:15:39 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 21960 invoked by uid 97); 4 Jan 2002 15:15:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 21911 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 15:15:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3C35C6FB.365C295D@apache.org> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:15:07 -0500 From: Ted Husted Organization: Apache Software Foundation / Jakarta X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: More abuse of coding styles... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N A nice alternative to Sun's (a superset really) is the Elements of Java Style. Highly recommended. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0521777682 bayard@generationjava.com wrote: > > > Sigh. That isn't the argument. The argument is about following what > > conventions we do have. It could be about coding, voting policies, > > whatever...if people ignore the rules, then we shouldn't bother having rules > > at all. > > I'm going through exactly this situation in my new employment. One great > reasoning for ignoring the coding convention: > > "Sun don't obey their coding convention internally. " > > It seems to me to be a similar reason for why open source Java should use > the Apache licence. It's the biggest fish we have to be a littler fish in > other seas. My view on the OS Java world has been that the Apache > licenced software is in the majority, would be nice to do the maths > and see if that's true. > > Arguing and fragmenting the 'standard' will cause the effectiveness of > the community to fail, which is a shame as Sun's conventions, when obeyed, > do create relatively homogenous code. > > Bay > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > For additional commands, e-mail: -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: