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From "Scott Sanders" <ssand...@nextance.com>
Subject RE: [Vote] ARMI to move
Date Thu, 10 Jan 2002 02:41:54 GMT


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geirm@optonline.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:07 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [Vote] ARMI to move
> 
> 
> On 1/9/02 1:43 PM, "Scott Sanders" <ssanders@nextance.com> wrote:
> 
> > According to the wesite, you are correct.  I thought it was 
> different.
> > 
> 
> How could it be the other way?
> 
> That means anyone who can get karma to work in sandbox (which 
> is every Jakarta committer) can therefore be the sole 
> committer for a new project, and vote themselves into Commons.
> 
> Can't be :)

I think you have taken that out of context.  I was stating that I didn't
think acceptance required 3/4 super-majority, but it does as of now.  So
no, a single committer cannot promote himself.

Scott

> 
> > Scott
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Martin Cooper [mailto:martin.cooper@tumbleweed.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:36 AM
> >> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> >> Subject: Re: [Vote] ARMI to move
> >> 
> >> 
> >> No, I don't think so. The positive super-majority is based on the 
> >> number of subproject (i.e. Commons) committers, not the number of 
> >> package (i.e. ARMI, in this case) committers. So 
> basically, it needs 
> >> 3/4 of all Commons committers to approve. At least, that's 
> how I read 
> >> it.
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Martin Cooper
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Scott Sanders" <ssanders@nextance.com>
> >> To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" 
> >> <commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:08 AM
> >> Subject: RE: [Vote] ARMI to move
> >> 
> >> 
> >> It looks like you have the positive super majority.  We 
> should wait a 
> >> while longer before moving it, so any lingering votes can come out.
> >> 
> >> Scott
> >> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Martin Cooper [mailto:martin.cooper@tumbleweed.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:11 AM
> >>> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Vote] ARMI to move
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> Don't you need more active committers?
> >>> 
> >>> Interesting question. My initial assumption was that, yes,
> >> that's what
> >>> the rules say. However, on checking the Commons charter, 
> it doesn't 
> >>> actually say how many committers are required for a package to be 
> >>> accepted (or if it does, I missed it). The Jakarta rules do, of 
> >>> course. Perhaps this is something we should define?
> >>> 
> >>> The vote for acceptance, however, is well defined as a positive 
> >>> super-majority.
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> Martin Cooper
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <geirm@optonline.net>
> >>> To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List"
> >> <commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> >>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:50 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Vote] ARMI to move
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> Don't you need more active committers?
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 1/6/02 6:35 PM, "Paul Hammant" <Paul_Hammant@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Folks,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-commons-sandbox/armi/
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I have done a lot of work on ARMI and think it is time
> >>> for me to ask
> >>>>> committers to vote for a move of this tool from 'sandbox'
> >>> in to the
> >>>>> main CVS tree.  It also needs a rename (ARMI is already
> >>> used in the
> >>>>> context of Java by another academic team).  Please do not
> >>> think of
> >>>>> this as a full replacement for RMI.  It is merely an
> >> alternative
> >>>>> that bizarely might be most useful (to Avalon) entirely
> >>> inside one
> >>>>> VM.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> With respect to the rename, I think FacadePublisher gives
> >>> the most
> >>>>> meaning, but is not snappy.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Now, I guess I have no vote myself as I am only a committer to 
> >>>>> 'soapbox' but I would be interested to know if know the
> >>> outcome of a
> >>>>> vote from those that do......
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Two votes:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 1) for ARMI being renamed to FacadePublisher (or other)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 2) for migrating from 'soapbox' to main CVS.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks in advance....
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> - Paul H
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
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