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From "Scott Sanders" <ssand...@nextance.com>
Subject RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
Date Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:15:19 GMT
Avalons logger is older than that...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Morgan Delagrange [mailto:mdelagra@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:18 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
> 
> 
> I believe so.  I remember discussing the idea of the 
> abstraction layer before Rod wrote it, and Avalon never came 
> up.  Of course, I don't claim to have a perfect memory.  ;)  
> org/apache/commons/httpclient/log/Log.java is 5 months, 4 
> weeks old, while 
> org/apache/avalon/framework/logger/Logger.java is 2 months, 4 
> weeks old, if that is any indication (which it may not be, who knows).
> 
> It doesn't really matter IMO.  Clearly people who knew Avalon 
> were involved with the discussions over the past few months, 
> as were people familiar with Log4J.  I remember Ceki was a 
> very active participant in the early discussions.  There 
> should be some mention of both projects as influences to the 
> final product, although the basic approach may not originate 
> from either.
> 
> - Morgan
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Sanders" <ssanders@nextance.com>
> To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
> 
> 
> So, you are saying that httpclient originated the code 
> without influence from avalon?
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Morgan Delagrange [mailto:mdelagra@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:05 PM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
> >
> >
> > I'm fairly sure that the Log and LogSource orginated with 
> HttpClient.  
> > We wanted to be able to perform logging, but some were 
> uncomfortable 
> > with a runtime dependency on Log4J; this was the 
> compromise.  Craig's 
> > assertion that the original contribution was influenced by Log4J is 
> > fair IMO.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Sanders" <ssanders@nextance.com>
> > To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" 
> <commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 1:50 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
> >
> >
> > I am still trying to track down where the first Log and 
> LogSource came 
> > from.  I tracked it back to httpclient, and I am looking further.  
> > Rod, can you tell me where the Log and LogSource originated from in 
> > httpclient?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:bloritsch@apache.org]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:47 AM
> > > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > > Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Sanders wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am happy to do this.
> > > >
> > > > However, I did not start the logging component, so can you
> > > point me to
> > > > the proper viewcvs page for the avalon impl?
> > > >
> > > > I will start to look at the origin of the logging component.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/api/index.html
> >
> http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/api/org/apache/avalon/framewo
> rk/logger/
> package-summary.html
> 
> The pieces in question are:
> 
> org.apache.avalon.logger.Logger org.apache.avalon.logger.LogKitLogger
> org.apache.avalon.logger.Log4JLogger
> org.apache.avalon.logger.Jdk14Logger
> 
> 
> 
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