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From "Morgan Delagrange" <mdela...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
Date Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:28:12 GMT
I pulled those dates out of CVS.  Perhaps the Avalon logger was moved from
somewhere else...  I know that LogKit is older than that, but I don't know
the details of this new logging abstraction.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Sanders" <ssanders@nextance.com>
To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release


Avalons logger is older than that...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Morgan Delagrange [mailto:mdelagra@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:18 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
>
>
> I believe so.  I remember discussing the idea of the
> abstraction layer before Rod wrote it, and Avalon never came
> up.  Of course, I don't claim to have a perfect memory.  ;)
> org/apache/commons/httpclient/log/Log.java is 5 months, 4
> weeks old, while
> org/apache/avalon/framework/logger/Logger.java is 2 months, 4
> weeks old, if that is any indication (which it may not be, who knows).
>
> It doesn't really matter IMO.  Clearly people who knew Avalon
> were involved with the discussions over the past few months,
> as were people familiar with Log4J.  I remember Ceki was a
> very active participant in the early discussions.  There
> should be some mention of both projects as influences to the
> final product, although the basic approach may not originate
> from either.
>
> - Morgan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Sanders" <ssanders@nextance.com>
> To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
>
>
> So, you are saying that httpclient originated the code
> without influence from avalon?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Morgan Delagrange [mailto:mdelagra@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:05 PM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
> >
> >
> > I'm fairly sure that the Log and LogSource orginated with
> HttpClient.
> > We wanted to be able to perform logging, but some were
> uncomfortable
> > with a runtime dependency on Log4J; this was the
> compromise.  Craig's
> > assertion that the original contribution was influenced by Log4J is
> > fair IMO.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Sanders" <ssanders@nextance.com>
> > To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List"
> <commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 1:50 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
> >
> >
> > I am still trying to track down where the first Log and
> LogSource came
> > from.  I tracked it back to httpclient, and I am looking further.
> > Rod, can you tell me where the Log and LogSource originated from in
> > httpclient?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:bloritsch@apache.org]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:47 AM
> > > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > > Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Sanders wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am happy to do this.
> > > >
> > > > However, I did not start the logging component, so can you
> > > point me to
> > > > the proper viewcvs page for the avalon impl?
> > > >
> > > > I will start to look at the origin of the logging component.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/api/index.html
> >
> http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/api/org/apache/avalon/framewo
> rk/logger/
> package-summary.html
>
> The pieces in question are:
>
> org.apache.avalon.logger.Logger org.apache.avalon.logger.LogKitLogger
> org.apache.avalon.logger.Log4JLogger
> org.apache.avalon.logger.Jdk14Logger
>
>
>
>
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