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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:24:49 +0100
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Subject: Re: from Cforms to Wicket
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IMHO, any kind of *Forms* technology is not a viable solution today in the
long term. I wouldn't bet on XForms or any other non-standard/standard
framework/technology as long as you just don't want to play around with it.

The only valid standard today for View part of MVC/MVVP is ... HTML5.

Even Oracle found it right, by introducing HTML5 native tags that are
JSF-compatible (in JSF 2.2), not the JSF-only tags (as in JSF 2.1).

All big players: Oracle, IBM, Microsoft, Adobe have switched their
development
efforts to HTML5.

Greetings,
Greg


2013/2/18 Mika M Lehtonen <mika@digikartta.net>

> Yeah,
> I know what you mean. Most of the Xforms sites are dated back to 2002 or
> 2003.. Sounds like a standard having glorious future behind..
>
> This betterForm still sounded proper for my purposes because it actually
> implements server-side approache of Xforms. So I could use Xforms
> definition for producing HTML-forms, if I understood right. It actually
> resembles a lot of Cforms with a difference that it seems to be under
> development taking contemporary challenges into account.
>
> But would I still need C3 (or C2.11 / C2.2)?
>
> I would like to get familiar with C3 if I only could figure out how to
> start.
>
> The biggest problem with C2.11, IMHO, was not having proper development
> tools to use. I ended up writing files with Notepad++. And I never realiz=
ed
> how to do debugging..
>
>
> - mika -
>
>
> 18.2.2013 10:48, Francesco Chicchiricc=F2 kirjoitti:
>
>  On 17/02/2013 21:57, Mika M Lehtonen wrote:
>>
>>> How about some XForms implementation like this http://www.betterform.de=
?
>>> Sounds promising..
>>>
>>
>> I personally wouldn't bet much on XForms...
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>IMHO, any kind of *Forms* technol=
ogy is not a viable solution today in the long term. I wouldn&#39;t bet on =
XForms or any other non-standard/standard framework/technology as long as y=
ou just don&#39;t want to play around with it.<br>
</div><div><br></div>The only valid standard today for View part of MVC/MVV=
P is ... HTML5.<br><br></div>Even Oracle found it right, by introducing HTM=
L5 native tags that are <br></div>JSF-compatible (in JSF 2.2), not the JSF-=
only tags (as in JSF 2.1).<br>
<br></div>All big players: Oracle, IBM, Microsoft, Adobe have switched thei=
r development<br>efforts to HTML5. <br><br></div><div>Greetings,<br></div><=
div>Greg<br></div><div><div><div><br><br><div><div><br></div></div></div>
</div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">2013/2/18 Mika M Lehtonen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mika=
@digikartta.net" target=3D"_blank">mika@digikartta.net</a>&gt;</span><br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Yeah,<br>
I know what you mean. Most of the Xforms sites are dated back to 2002 or 20=
03.. Sounds like a standard having glorious future behind..<br>
<br>
This betterForm still sounded proper for my purposes because it actually im=
plements server-side approache of Xforms. So I could use Xforms definition =
for producing HTML-forms, if I understood right. It actually resembles a lo=
t of Cforms with a difference that it seems to be under development taking =
contemporary challenges into account.<br>

<br>
But would I still need C3 (or C2.11 / C2.2)?<br>
<br>
I would like to get familiar with C3 if I only could figure out how to star=
t.<br>
<br>
The biggest problem with C2.11, IMHO, was not having proper development too=
ls to use. I ended up writing files with Notepad++. And I never realized ho=
w to do debugging..<br>
<br>
<br>
- mika -<br>
<br>
<br>
18.2.2013 10:48, Francesco Chicchiricc=F2 kirjoitti:<div class=3D"im HOEnZb=
"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 17/02/2013 21:57, Mika M Lehtonen wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
How about some XForms implementation like this <a href=3D"http://www.better=
form.de" target=3D"_blank">http://www.betterform.de</a>?<br>
Sounds promising..<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I personally wouldn&#39;t bet much on XForms...<br>
<br>
Regards.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">
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