Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cocoon-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE34291A7 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 80097 invoked by uid 500); 18 Apr 2012 13:29:34 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-users-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 79997 invoked by uid 500); 18 Apr 2012 13:29:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: users@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 79983 invoked by uid 99); 18 Apr 2012 13:29:34 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:29:34 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [134.68.171.23] (HELO mhw.ulib.iupui.edu) (134.68.171.23) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:29:26 +0000 Received: from mwood by mhw.ulib.iupui.edu with local (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SKUwT-0003Qd-Qk for users@cocoon.apache.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:29:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:29:05 -0400 From: "Mark H. Wood" To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Forms and maps Message-ID: <20120418132905.GC4796@IUPUI.Edu> References: <4F8EA6C2020000D40007A77A@pta-emo.csir.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F8EA6C2020000D40007A77A@pta-emo.csir.co.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:34:26AM +0200, Derek Hohls wrote: > It all depends on your environment and the "rate of change". There are > many back-end systems (running on old but reliable technology) that > hardly change at all. However, the web (and now tablets/mobile) has a > very high rate of change (and expectation of change). The point here is > that by using more loosely-coupled modules then you will only have to > change the parts that really need to be changed; a monolithic approach > is less amenable to that. I think this may actually underscore the O.P.'s point. Changing the whole world in one go is the monolithic approach. The modular approach would enable choosing new mechanisms for new work and sticking with old, established mechanisms for existing, still-useful work when that makes sense. Having to throw out piles of satisfactory working code just to use a dependency version that still has the attention of its maintainers is really unwelcome. I think the complaint is that Cocoon 3 is really Butterfly 1. --=20 Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu Asking whether markets are efficient is like asking whether people are smar= t. --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAk+OwaEACgkQs/NR4JuTKG8Q1ACeKaQ6G1v60Z2KxobjbXhPTTon 4gcAnjxuumyKwA4FnkVmkb2iEt/Dkmsz =5xvF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ--