Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 34238 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2009 06:40:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 2009 06:40:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 24708 invoked by uid 500); 24 Apr 2009 06:40:48 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-users-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 24637 invoked by uid 500); 24 Apr 2009 06:40:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: users@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 24253 invoked by uid 99); 24 Apr 2009 06:40:47 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:40:47 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1998.7 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,PLING_QUERY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [140.211.11.9] (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:40:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 33508 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2009 06:40:15 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Apr 2009 06:40:15 -0000 Message-ID: <49F15ECE.5000904@apache.org> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:40:14 +0200 From: Carsten Ziegeler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; de; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090302 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.21 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: XSLT is Dead ?! References: <49F08FEB.5CE9.00D4.0@csir.co.za> In-Reply-To: <49F08FEB.5CE9.00D4.0@csir.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Derek Hohls wrote: > At least, according to this article: > > http://java.dzone.com/news/death-xslt-web-frameworks > > Maybe some of the developers, or other power users here, > would like to comment at this blog - I see Cocoon also gets > a "dig in the ribs" ... > Without commenting on this specific article, my only general comment is that you'll find articles for specific technologies/projects and you'll find as many articles against these (I guess the most famous topic in our area is Maven). Who's is wrong and who's right? Or more important: is there such an easy answer? I definitly doubt this. There isn't such a thing as the one programming language that rules the world or the one framework that makes everyone happy and is the golden hammer. Everyone is free to use what he thinks works best for him. Ok, coming back to the original topic :) Looking at the past 9 years where I've been using Cocoon and done a lot of projects with Cocoon and XSLT, I think it was a great tool by the time. And XSLT helped a lot in getting up to speed (once you managed the high entrance barrier to Cocoon itself). There are a lot of use cases still today for XSLT when it comes to create web sites. It really helps to separate the content from the layout. But in the end that's a matter how you design your application. I see a lot of people using other frameworks than Cocoon and pass the output from that framework to XSLT after the framework has rendered the content. So I don't think that XSLT itself is dead. The attraction of Cocoon as a separate framework has decreased, but that's definitly not due to XSLT. Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler cziegeler@apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@cocoon.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@cocoon.apache.org