Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 5638 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2007 10:07:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 25 Jun 2007 10:07:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 74611 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jun 2007 10:07:30 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-users-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 74519 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jun 2007 10:07:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: users@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 74498 invoked by uid 99); 25 Jun 2007 10:07:30 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:07:30 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [213.133.33.40] (HELO smtp.is.nl) (213.133.33.40) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:07:25 -0700 Received: from [213.133.51.241] (HELO hai01.hippo.local) by smtp.is.nl (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.10) with ESMTP id 18112241 for users@cocoon.apache.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:07:03 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Cocoon database access strategy Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:07:02 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Cocoon database access strategy Thread-Index: Ace1eNsjSvedIIJ2Rp+2oBpSK+W2AwBlfxwA From: "Ard Schrijvers" To: X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hello, >This leads to start writing=20 > code before=20 > > the problem is fully understood and a reluctance to=20 > refactor once it=20 > > is. These are the very tendencies that Cocoon allows us to overcome=20 > > because it is entirely possible to develop fully fledged=20 > applications=20 > > without writing any Java code. These 'pure' XML applications are=20 > > likely to be much more maintainable, flexible and capable of re-use=20 > > than those that skew their centre of gravity back towards Java. I can hardly believe everybody seems to take this statement for granted = (jdo and jcr APIs are ofcourse totally redundant since you can write = your own fine sql statements, and of course, sql is a brilliant strong = specification, so when you have it running for oracle, you can switch = automatically without effort to mysql, derby, hsqldb, sql = server)...anyway, if everybody wants to write sql, do many xsl = transformations and take the burden of maintaining sql statements, be my = guest :-) Regards Ard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@cocoon.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@cocoon.apache.org