Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 51214 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2005 05:43:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 2005 05:43:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 445 invoked by uid 500); 14 Apr 2005 05:43:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-users-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 143 invoked by uid 500); 14 Apr 2005 05:43:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: users@cocoon.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 128 invoked by uid 99); 14 Apr 2005 05:43:24 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from ns-3.csir.co.za (HELO wabe.csir.co.za) (146.64.10.166) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:43:22 -0700 Received: from cs-emo.csir.co.za (cs-emo.csir.co.za [146.64.10.40]) by wabe.csir.co.za (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3E5gTro025147 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:42:37 +0200 Received: from GW-EMO-MTA by cs-emo.csir.co.za with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:42:29 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.3 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:42:08 +0200 From: "Derek Hohls" To: Subject: Re: State of the documentation effort Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-CSIR-MailScanner-Information: Please contact sys-admin at csir dot co dot za for more information X-CSIR-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: dhohls@csir.co.za X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Reinhard The broad structure seems fine; and I think the brutus site should reflect this i.e. there is currently a=20 'Tutorial', 'Documentation' and 'Blocks' tabs; maybe add/change these to : 'Getting Started','Tutorials', 'Reference Docs' (with blocks being a subtopic under Reference Docs=20 (obviously the topic will be mentioned in lesser detail under the other sections). And this leads to the point I was trying to make; these main tabs need to be broken down further - Ref Docs will obviously keep the same structure as existing site (with some additions) and, argubly, most new doc work must go into the "Getting Started" section. Again,=20 there have been detailed suggestions made in the past and documented on the wiki that can be used as good starting points. Thanks Derek >>> reinhard@apache.org 04/13/05 4:42 PM >>> Derek Hohls wrote: > Reinhard >=20 > This looks good - what still seems to be missing is an=20 > overall information structure - the "wood" and not the > "trees" - for me, assessing the detail is much easier if > I can see the big picture. I also think it makes it easier > to see if new pages eg. from the wiki, need to be added > in to help complete the information structure. Our goal is providing three types of documentation: - getting started infos - reference docs - tutorials (as suggested today) The current state of our work is accesible through=20 http://brutus.apache.org/docs/build/cocoon-2-2/index.html. Tommorrow the = legacy=20 tab will be filled with all 2.1 docs that have to be reviewed. >=20 > [sidebar: it is suggested on the page : > http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/CocoonDocumentationSystemHowTo=20 > that users should "add a note at the top of the page that=20 > you're working on moving it to our official documentation" > how about allowing users to suggest pages that should be > moved, and let the docs team decide if they need work on? > Maybe try and have standard way of annotating this?] maybe it would be more helpful to have a wiki page that links to all = suggested=20 pages with a comment who is working on it and what's the current state. WDYT? --=20 Reinhard P=F6tz Independent Consultant, Trainer & (IT)-Coach=20 {Software Engineering, Open Source, Web Applications, Apache Cocoon} web(log): http://www.poetz.cc -------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@cocoon.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@cocoon.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@cocoon.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@cocoon.apache.org