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From "Derek Hohls" <DHo...@csir.co.za>
Subject Re: Printing pages from Cocoon-like sites
Date Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:48:46 GMT
"The cocoon site has something similar"?

Oh, please point me to it.

Thanks
Derek

>>> bruno@outerthought.org 2004/07/13 04:42:20 PM >>>
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 11:24, Derek Hohls wrote:
> No, I wasn't aware of navigation issues... 
> can  you explain this one further?

I meant it as a positive thing: when printing, the left navigation
area
isn't printed, so the pages are quite printable.

> 
> For example, when I am at this site:
>
http://www.westciv.com/style_master/academy/hands_on_tutorial/index.html

> 
> and press the print button on my browser
> (Opera or IE6), I get a neat print-only version
> popping out (using a different stylesheet and
> quite different look-and-feel from the :cool: 
> version I see on my web browser).

yep, the cocoon site has something similar, though less worked out.

> 
> I cannot see any impact on my navigation
> in this scenario; I suppose one could also
> pop-up a new window so you could "preview" 
> the print-ready version... but most browers
> also support creating a "print preview" which
> works just as well, IMO.  Also no navigation
> issues in this approach.
> 
> Derek
>  
> 
> >>> bruno@outerthought.org 2004/07/13 10:10:29 AM >>>
> On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 08:42, Derek Hohls wrote:
> > I assume that a number of the sites that have
> > a Cocoon "look and feel" are created the same
> > way (- Forrest?).  It has always "bugged" me 
> > that, when visiting these sites, I cannot just click 
> > on the print button on my browser and create a 
> > well-laid out page directly on my printer.
> 
> Discouraging people from printing seems like a good thing to me ;-)
> 
> Anyway, you know that the navigation is automatically dropped when
> printing?
> 
> > 
> > I know there is a mechanism to create "printable
> > versions" of pages, using PDF.  Despite the fact 
> > that PDF is fairly widely used, not everyone buys 
> > in to it, and it is not always the most appropriate.
> > I do feel that Cocoon, whose major use has been 
> > as a web-publishing framework, should allow for 
> > better printing facilities. In practice, its not hard to 
> > achieve, if we ditch the clunky use of tables for the 
> > layout and move to a stylesheet-based approach.
> > 
> > I was wondering if there were any plans to do
> > this in the near future?
> > 
> > (yes, I know this is open-source and stuff only
> > happens if someone volunteers... would this be
> > an appropriate area that needs some time invested?)

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Bruno Dumon                             http://outerthought.org/ 
Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
bruno@outerthought.org                          bruno@apache.org 


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