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From beyaNet Consultancy <beya...@ntlworld.com>
Subject Re: JXT or XSP?
Date Sat, 01 May 2004 12:20:07 GMT
Christian,
as long, as flowscript is ustilised to do nothing more than direct the 
flow of pages, the sitemap should still retain its powerful features...


Peter
On 1 May 2004, at 11:21, Christian Rosenberger wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I think in concerns of MVC, the solution Ralph mentioned seems to be 
> the
> best. You have a clear seperation between prsentation, controller and
> business logic.
>
> The system would look like this:
>
> Presentation:  Plain XHTML or whatever output format you like
>
> Controller     Actions
>
> Modell:        Business Delegate/Business Logic Manager (connected to
> database in whatever way)
>
> All controlled in sitemap. As Ralph mentioned, if you put controlling 
> or
> logic in flowscript, the sitemap will loose all powerful possibilites 
> it
> has.
>
> Regards,
>
> Christian
>
>> This is just my opinion, but I know others here share it.
>
>> First, I've never used XSP - I never saw a need to, and I just don't 
>> like
>> the idea. Second, >while flowscript has its uses it is also very 
>> dangerous.
>> One of the key things Cocoon provides >is strong separation of 
>> concerns.
>> Flowscript provides the opportunity to muddy that all up if >you 
>> aren't
>> careful. Having said that, we will be using flowscript in a minor 
>> way. We
>> will use it >to manage page flows where pages must be presented in
>> sequence. We have NO business logic in the >flowscript. Business 
>> delegates
>> are defined as Avalon components and invoked from a 
>> >BusinessDelegateAction
>> and the Data Transfer Object they return is serialized using a
>> >BetwixtGenerator. This performs very well and keeps the control in 
>> the
>> sitemap.
>
>> Ralph
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: beyaNet Consultancy [mailto:beyanet@ntlworld.com]
>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 4:43 AM
>
> To: users@cocoon.apache.org
>
> Subject: JXT or XSP?
>
> Hi,
>
> why use(promote) XSP, when JXT and flowscript is a far more powerful
>
> environment to develop in?
>
> Peter
>
>
>
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