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From "Christian Rosenberger" <pieperm...@gmx.de>
Subject Re: Cocoon Books
Date Fri, 14 May 2004 14:39:02 GMT
For all german speaking folk on the list:

http://www.galileocomputing.de/katalog/buecher/titel/gp/titelID-672

Published two weeks ago. Nearly 900 pages. You can read hours/days/months in 
it.

And then press your flowers with it ;-)

Regards,
Christian

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derek Hohls [mailto:DHohls@csir.co.za]
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 1:48 PM
> To: users@cocoon.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Cocoon Books
>
>
> Matthew
>
> Obviously have been through the whole process you are in
> the best position to understand this issue.
>
> Is there not some room for an "intemediate" approach -
> a *series* of articles on key topics published in on-line magazines -
> reasonably well-researched and edited; which
> effectively become what would have been chapters in a
> book.  As you say, maybe its more for the prestige and
> reputation rather than the money... but it would also serve
> to both bolster Cocoon's status and become the defacto documentation for
> all the new features?
>
> Just my .2c
> Derek
>
>>>> mlangham@s-und-n.de 2004/05/14 01:16:07 PM >>>
>> Perhaps the authors of the first Cocoon books could tell us
>> whether they got any new business from writing the books?
>> That might encourage more people to write Cocoon books.
>>
>
> I hear the call :-)
>
> Ok, first thing to say is that the IT book market is still a mess at
> the
> moment (as it has been for the past 2-3 years). Publishers are very
> wary
> about bringing out new books (especially on non-mainstream subjects).
> Also,
> especially in the US, many publishers have merged their inprints -
> meaning
> that some (such as Pearson) ended up with a couple of Cocoon books
> (for
> example). This means that some books on a particular subject have
> fallen by
> the wayside. Our Cocoon book is an example. Our last information from
> the
> publisher was that there are no plans to do a new version - even though
> we
> may perhaps want to.
>
> Writing a book (an IT one especially) is - as Erik Hatcher wrote [1] -
> "one
> of life's greatest sacrifices"
>
> While you shouldn't think of writing an IT book to get rich (although a
> few
> may), it can certainly help to make you (or your company) known as
> someone
> with know-how on the subject ("personal marketing" if you will). In the
> end
> we did get a bit of business from the book but certainly not very much.
> To
> that respect I would think that articles in key IT magazines (and the
> online
> versions) are more worthwhile at the moment.
>
> Your mileage may of course vary.
>
> Matthew
>
> [1] - http://weblogs.java.net/pub/wlg/1239
>
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