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From Johan Kok <>
Subject Re: cocoon-blank.war II
Date Thu, 11 Dec 2003 04:22:37 GMT

I really like the direction you are choosing, as I believe a lot can be 
done to bring userfriendly front-ends to cocoon. I am also using forrest 
and had similar thoughts there. - I would be a user of such.With a bit 
of Forrest background I recently started working on Cocoon and had a 
torred time obtaining a simple environment to work from - missed the 
myapp sample until most were done.

Patrick Hess wrote:

> Hi Cocoon-Users,
> I followed the threads about a blank cocoon.war and I can understand 
> the arguments of the people voting agains something like this and I 
> can understand the problem some users have. When I started in the area 
> of web applications it was often hard for me to solve even the 
> simplest problems -- having such an option would have saved me lots of 
> hours of work.
> So yesterday evening I started to hack a small project that I would 
> like to introduce now and get some feedback - maybe it will again this 
> week if you convince me :)
> My idea was to offer cocoon creator. It's a web application (at the of 
> this writing in PHP -- I will convert it to cocoon if the concept is 
> good enough) asking you some build-specific question (JDK to build, 
> Cocoon version, blocks to include). Based on this information it will 
> start to build a customized version of cocoon and offer it to download 
> to user.
> The basics are there and I'm happy with current state. This evening I 
> will do some polishing and hope to get somebody of you for testing and 
> critics. This is why I'm NOT going to publish the URL right now.
> I really really enjoy cocoon and for me it's the best piece of 
> software in terms of web publishing that I've found in the last years 
> so this may be a way to give back something to the cocoon community 
> until my cocoon skills are good enough to give back some really 
> usefull stuff :)))
> Because of time needed to build a complete .war file I'm running only 
> one build at the same time so it may take a while until the user 
> really gets the file. Because of the bandwidth I will also restrict 
> the amount of downloads to around 20-30 per day (or 1000 per month, 
> don't know yet...)
> If someone is interested in testing this app please contact me and I 
> will send you the URL.
> Any other comments, flames or ideas are also welcome!
> Thanks for your time...

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