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From Geoff Howard <coc...@leverageweb.com>
Subject Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Released - binary??
Date Sun, 17 Aug 2003 02:26:07 GMT
Sonny Sukumar wrote:
> 
> Is there a document that explains line by line what each of the entries 
> in build.properties is?  Some of them weren't clear to me, so I just 
> guessed whether I needed them or not.

Not that I'm aware of and it's a good idea.  Could you start a wiki page 
for it at wiki.cocoondev.org?  That'd be the fasted way to get some 
useful information documented.

Geoff

>>
>> Sam Chance wrote:
>>
>>> As a user...the binary is essential.  I understand it makes it easier 
>>> for
>>> the developers, but I think the issue needs to be revisited with an 
>>> intent
>>> to distribute a binary.
>>
>>
>> Ok, first of all - I hear you and will raise this issue again on the 
>> dev list. (cc'd).  Can I ask you to elaborate on why you think the one 
>> step build is just out of the question for you?  Is it the ease of 
>> first use when evaluating?  Is it the build time?  Is there something 
>> not provided that is needed?  Honestly, everyone has been very open 
>> minded about this but had a hard time coming up with a quantifiable 
>> reason.
>>
>> But also,
>> - just to reiterate.  This was not meant to make it easier on the 
>> developers, but the users.  It was observed that Cocoon is not really 
>> a thing that you just "use" -- it's a framework that lets you develop 
>> something.  And starting that process was very painful with a binary 
>> distribution and it is much better with the current one.  There is 
>> just so much in the distribution that any one person doesn't need all 
>> of it.
>> - this was never intended as a permanent direction for Cocoon.  The 
>> arrival of hot-pluggable "real" blocks in (probably) the next release 
>> will give the best of both worlds.
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Derek Hohls [mailto:dhohls@csir.co.za]
>>> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 12:13 AM
>>> To: users@cocoon.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Released - binary??
>>>
>>> The explanation given here is *not* an explanation
>>> at all - not all of us are subscribers to the developers
>>> list and so are not party to the discussions that prompted
>>> this decision - perhaps one of the developers can
>>> summarise the issues and update the website - then the
>>> rest of us can have  a chance to comment.
>>>
>>> PS If you do decide to not release a binary verrsion, then
>>> you certainly should remove the link to the
>>> Binary distributions archive (link on this page)
>>>
>>>>>> vadim.gritsenko@verizon.net 15/08/2003 06:39:43 >>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Frans Thamura wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where is the binary???
>>>
>>>
>>> http://cocoon.apache.org/mirror.cgi
>>> Second paragraph.
>>>
>>>
>>> Vadim
>>
>>
>>
>>
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