Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-cocoon-users-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 24935 invoked by uid 500); 8 Feb 2003 11:48:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cocoon-users-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 24923 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2003 11:48:03 -0000 Message-ID: <3E44EE2B.3080602@saxess.com> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 12:46:51 +0100 From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous Organization: SAXESS Software Design GmbH User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.1b) Gecko/20020721 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Subject: A note about the "best(?) (cocoon-) development environment" ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hy, all; During the last months of activities i learned a lot from this mailing list. while i followed the discussions i started getting my development environment a bit up to date. I plan to setup a Wiki page on this theme. Although this may be a bit off topic, it still would be great, if someone could comment on this issue. the tools collection -------------------- Here is what i have put together so far. Of course this is driven at least partially by what i do for my customers... free tools: 1.) OS: linux and solaris (maybe a mater of taste) 2.) apache 1.3.26 (mod_jk2, mod_SSL) 3.) tomcat 4.1.18 4.) cocoon-2.0.4 5.) eclipse 6.) sunbow eclipse tools (xml/sitemap) 7.) ant 8.) java-1.3.1 (sun JDK on all platforms) 9.) Secureway LDAP Server (i'll switch to Open LDAP soon) commercial tools: 10.) clearcase cms (see below) 11.) xml-spy 12.) several DB-Systems notes about the collection -------------------------- * All tools mentioned above fit tightly together. I use apache/tomcat since about three years now. The above combination also works fine with SSL. * After i got eclipse setup in tomcat debugging mode, i could at least double my productivity. Thanks to the tomcat site it was a matter of seconds to get it up see: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedev-rdtomcat.html * I also managed to setup eclipse with Cocoon in less than 10 minutes. OK, i did a lousy trick, but for debugging and learning how cocoon internals work it's absolutley satisfying... * about SCM in general and Clearcase in particular: Clearcase is a quite expensive and known to be very slow SCM tool. On the other hand it is super easy to integrate. Due to exposing the data within a "virtual filesystem" you just don't see it from the users viewpoint (except checkin checkout your files). Having the clearcase integration kit for eclipse up and running comes near to a developers dream. I hope, after Rational has been incorporated into IBM, clearcase or a derivate of it will eventually find it's way into the ongoing eclipse efforts to build just another SCM. See http://www.eclipse.org/technology/index.html follow the link to "stellation" at the bottom of the page. Another interesting new SCM could be subversion from http://subversion.tigris.org/ ... All of these SCM's provide directory versioning (something once you got it, you'll never want to miss again...) * I happen to use XML-Spy since a couple of years now. Maybe i just got used to it. I like it, although i have to pay for the license. At least it helps me getting my XSCHEMA's generated in no time. My personal SAXESS story ... ---------------------------- SAXESS stands for "System AXESS", just to get this clear;-) I write this down, mainly because i got very very satisfied with this especially when i compare this to what i was used to in former times when open source was something, nobody ever heard of... I'm running my webserver on some linux box and my webapps on solaris driven by tomcat. All of my code is dropped into a company wide multiplatform SCM system. I'm developing with the eclipse IDE right on my Desktop machine. I'm running Cocoon for the visualisation part of my projects. This is just a great XML publishing tool, and i'm still only using the basics of it for now. By saving my work to the SCM, my testwebapp gets autodeployed on a solaris box, which happens to be our testenvironment. I can setup remote debuggig sessions from my desktop directly into the heart of my webapplications... Once i checked in my work into the SCM, my webapp gets autodeployed on linux, which happens to be our website server. And i bet, after fiddeling around a bit, i could setup a debugging session on my customers site, while sitting somewhere at a beach, quickfix a bug, and then turn back to the real life just beeing happy for the rest of the day... A personal thank to the Open Source comunity -------------------------------------------- Folks, Thank you very much all you, who have contributed to get such a powerfull toolset up and running. I just get very excited seeing this developer's dream becoming reality... And sad enough i'm not sitting at a beach, but in "good ol'e germany" getting to much rain and too few sun (solaris is not good for everything...). thanks for your attention, if your patience lasted until here ;-) regards, Hussayn -- Dr. Hussayn Dabbous SAXESS Software Design GmbH Neuenh�fer Allee 125 D-50935 K�ln tel.:+49 221 56011 0 fax.:+49 221-56011 20 email:dabbous@saxess.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: