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From "Derek Hohls" <>
Subject RE: presentation help needed: Cocoon apps vs other apps?
Date Tue, 25 Feb 2003 06:47:11 GMT
Coming in from the side.... there were some earlier
threads where it was suggested that a full-scale web-
application should not be created in either Struts or
solely in Cocoon - but the EJB , with Cocoon as the 
presentation front-end, were the way to go.... your opinion
may differ widely, of course, but its worth reading those
threads to see what the arguments are.  We also have
developers here that are "sold" on Struts - I would like
to better understand where and how these two approaches
differ or overlap; how to know which one to choose and,
ideally, how and where they can actually work together!
My 2c

>>> 25/02/2003 07:22:56 >>>
Do you mean just plain web application?

It's Struts' territory :) Seriously, Cocoon has a steep learning curve.
it's hard to "sell" it, unless there's something special in the
imho. If I propose Cocoon as a platform for generic webapps, then I
must be
able to defend this view. I'm not sure that I can do it.

I've to give more thought on this though.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan Hoegg [] 
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 6:12 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: presentation help needed: Cocoon apps
> Hi Argyn,
> I'm not sure if you would consider this to fall under
> "portals", but you
> might also want to include its use as a platform for web
> applications.
>  You could talk about XMLForms and Actions.
> --
> Ryan Hoegg
> ISIS Networks
> Argyn wrote:
> >Hello!
> >
> >I already wrote here, that I'm preparing a presentation on Cocoon.
> >
> >I'm almost done. I've one section left, which is about types of
> >tasks/projects, where Cocoon can be used most effectively.
> >
> >I have this so far:
> >Portals - obvious, I can say something about portal project too
> >WebServices - both as a web service provider and consumer
> >Publishing and document processing - obvious
> >EAI and/or (Data mining and reporting)- Cocoon's aggregation
> from data
> >sources can be used for system integration - this is my favourite!
> >
> >Also, I'd love to get a project where I can use Cocoon vs
> OLAP. I've a
> >feeling that Cocoon's going to beat OLAP
> >
> >Ok, if you have any other suggestions, they'll be
> appreciated and considered
> >
> >cheers,
> >Argyn
> >
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