Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-cocoon-users-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 19504 invoked by uid 500); 28 Jun 2002 20:20:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cocoon-users-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 19492 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2002 20:20:13 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:20:08 +0200 Subject: Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) From: leo leonid To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <02062622411500.31149@linux.integerservices.no-ip.com> Message-Id: <7127DFE6-8AD4-11D6-8AA6-003065A89D34@leonid.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) X-Spam-Rating: 209.66.108.5 1.6.2 0/1000/N Dear List, This thread was false from the beginning. You just have to look at the=20= subject to expose the authors real intension - a simple reckoning - and=20= he even gives us the reason of his frustration: the end of his > short vacation in beautiful Chicago having to resume his mind-numbing work somewhere between > Toronto and Montreal. Catching himself dreaming of > ...thirty-year-old mainframe operating system > (MVS) produced by IBM back in the sixties and it's patching system > (SMP4)... he wisely diagnoses > Maybe I'm getting old but afterwards the retraction: > it can't just be my age. and he puts the blame on cocoon, which is certainly much younger, and=20 full of vigour... sorry, but this is poor, like most reactions that followed. The defeatist subject line obviously attracted and encouraged others to=20= take the pressure off themselves. The spurious argument: Lack of documentation. This is not really new to=20= someone who has read the documentation, because even there it is an=20 issue. But for being more comprehensive the following issues are not=20 really new either: - Developers are saying contribute but mean fuck you. - The Cathedral and the Bazaar - Attacking $cocoon-book authors - Defending $cocoon-book authors In contrast to Eric=92s prophecy, I hope Nicola's tag line fulfills and=20= this needless and awkward discussion gets forgotten soon. /Leo --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: