Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-cocoon-users-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 3816 invoked by uid 500); 27 Jun 2002 22:47:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cocoon-users-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 3804 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2002 22:47:20 -0000 Message-ID: <3D1B9615.7020505@apache.org> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:47:49 -0400 From: "Andrew C. Oliver" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing References: <111CCE21E90FD511A7BE0002B325AFDEEC173D@MAIL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: 209.66.108.5 1.6.2 0/1000/N I'm not saying there aren't issues. I'm saying his attitude is wrong. You pay for this by participating. If the issue was unknown this would be valuable, but this issue is known. Help fix it or accept it. Or fund someone else to help fix it. If you see a nail sticking up, grab a hammer. Don't whine, and take you cookies and go home. If this were a commercial piece of software, that would be your best course of action as a customer. Thats not the case here. -Andy >>What do you mean by "better support"? >> >> > > >Maybe I'm suffering from dislexia, but reading the docs in >xml.apache.org/cocoon helped me only to understand the highest level >concepts. There were lots of tiny little issues which are not covered >anywhere in the documentation. "What's the best way to do this and this?". >No answers anywhere but here, in the mailing list. Ok, I have a habit to >look into sources when I've time, but sometimes there's no time. You came >here and ask a question, hopefully soon you get an answer. Then comes >another issue, then another and so on. Finally, you spend whole day on some >stupid problem which could be resolved with good FAQ. > >I have to admit that things are improving with docs. FAQs are becoming real >FAQs, not those short "read mailing list" as they were before. IBM's >tutorials are a very positive step, I recommend them to everybody. They help >a lot. Again, I'm not complaining I just want to say that there's an issue, >and I'm glad that the situation with documentation is improving. I think >that the biggest issue with Cocoon is its docs. > > > >>>and better documentation. >>> >>>I'm not complaining, by the way. I'd love Cocoon become a mainstream >>>framework. >>> >>> >>So, help us make it better. >> >> > >raising the issue is my help :) > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Please check that your question has not already been answered in the >FAQ before posting. > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: >For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: