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From Sebastien SACARD <sebastien.sac...@kelkoo.com>
Subject Re: 'optimised HTML' serialiser
Date Tue, 25 Jun 2002 12:02:36 GMT
I agree with the principle but there is the 'third way' :

 - I want to have cross-browser HTML code (netscape 4.0 + IE) so I can't 
afford relying on stylesheet only. My aim is to reduce the number of 
hits on my webserver, that's why I'b better avoid including called to 
external stylesheets.
 - Browsers get lost on attributes values without quotes only when the 
value of attributes contains not numeric values. For example : "width=80 
height=60" is as easy to render as width="80" and height="60", but not 
width=100% for example. So removing quotes can be significant.

- A more cocoon-oriented question. How do you implement whitespace 
stripping and carriage returns stripping with cocoon ?


Manos Batsis wrote:

>Sebastien,
>
>I would advise you to reconsider your viewpoint.
>You are suggesting that by sending HTML3.2 you gain the advantage of
>fewer bytes; I disagree. If you want to save bandwidth, XHTML is what
>you need. That's because it's modular. You can move most of
>presentation-related info to a cascading stylesheet, which will make
>downloads faster (stylesheets are reusable and browsers tend to cash
>them). 
>Also, there  are more things than download time; how about rendering
>time? Your 'fewer bytes' advantage turns zero if the browser has to go
>through figuring out what the crippled (by today's standards) markup
>means to render the page.
>I would consider using the XHTML basic DTD if you need something really
>compact and simple. And there's always whitespace stripping.
>
>Cheers,
>Manos
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Sebastien SACARD [mailto:sebastien.sacard@kelkoo.com] 
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 2:34 PM
>>To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
>>Subject: 'optimised HTML' serialiser
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>In a production environment, it's important to have 'optimised HTML' 
>>(without quotes, without spaces, etc ...) in order to lower 
>>the number 
>>of bytes to the end user. This question sounds a little 
>>silly, but does 
>>anyone know a transformer or a serialiser that produces such HTML ?
>>
>>
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