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From Argyn Kuketayev <Argyn.Kuketa...@plateau.com>
Subject RE: Samples as tools for learning and development (Was: Giving up ! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing)
Date Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:04:00 GMT


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 9:11 AM
> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Samples as tools for learning and development 
> (Was: Giving
> up ! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing)
> >However the docs are improving, and the message of this 
> topic has been
> >gotten, at least by few developers. Others are still in 
> denial mode, but
> >it's Ok. 
> >  
> >
> No, the bulk of the message I tried to deliver is:  everyone 
> is aware of 
> it, people are working on it, if
> it truely bothers you, pay for your opensource software and be one of 
> those people.

Andrew,

that message was hidden in the noise. "Trolling" references, "cathedral and
bazaar" mentions and other off-topic subjects did not help you, guys, to
deliver the message. I'm left with the mixed feeling. At the end, I see that
people recognize the issue and think of solutions, but at the same time the
first reaction ("He's giving up? Let him go.") is shocking. Also, repeating
theme from many developers is MONEY, every other message advises me to pay
MONEY. It's all off-topic. I'm amazed how experienced USENET, FIDO people
were lost in off-topic. Forget "Cathedral...", there's an issue. Solve it.
We are not Free Software Prophets, we are programmers. Let's be pragmatic.

I'm not complaining, it's just my poor English :)

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