Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-cocoon-users-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 45678 invoked by uid 500); 6 May 2002 08:59:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cocoon-users-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 45667 invoked from network); 6 May 2002 08:59:33 -0000 From: "Carsten Ziegeler" To: Subject: RE: Cocoon sunSpot vs. Jetspeed / User Management and Authentication Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 11:02:05 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on PBSN1/Systeme und Netzwerke(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 06.05.2002 10:59:44, Serialize by Router on PBSN1/Systeme und Netzwerke(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 06.05.2002 10:59:45, Serialize complete at 06.05.2002 10:59:45 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > -----Original Message----- > From: Hochsteger Andreas /INFO-MA [mailto:Andreas.Hochsteger@oeamtc.at] > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:44 AM > To: 'cocoon-users@xml.apache.org' > Subject: Cocoon sunSpot vs. Jetspeed / User Management and > Authentication > > > Hi! > > I just read parts of the sunSpot documentation and got a dejavu feeling, > while reading about sunlets and things like that. It seems that > Jetspeed has > a similar functionality (as far as I understand it) but Jetspeed is never > mentioned in the docs. Jetspeed and Cocoon are two different projects with the same aim: a portal. > > Here are my questions: > * Is sunSpot something similar to Jetspeed? If so, why doesn't it use the > already existing Jetspeed? The main difference between Jetspeed and sunspot is that sunspot is build on top of cocoon, that means you can use all features of cocoon like the xml processing pipelines, stylesheets for layout etc to build your portal. Jetspeed is a separate technology, so if you want to use cocoon *and* if you want a portal, jetspeed is (afaik) not an alternative. > * What's the difference / similarity between sunlets and portlets? Can > portlets be part of a sunlet? A sunlet is simply a URI which produces XML, this can either be a Cocoon XML pipeline, or an http request or any other URI. I don't know the jetspeed portlets, but if they are accessible via a URI, yes you can use them as a sunlet. > * How stable/usable is sunRise and its components for production use? When > can we expect a first stable release (I don't need an exact date, > just tell > me in some weeks or in some years ;-)? sunrise and sunspot are stable. Both are a donnation of our company (S&N AG, Germany) and are just for more than one year in various production environments. An official cocoon release containing those two parts is expected in summer this year. > * Are there any attempts to support User Management and Authentication > Standards like XACML (http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xacml/), RBAC > (http://csrc.nist.gov/rbac/), SAML > (http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/security/), ...? > Sorry, I don't know those, but the sunrise authentication mechanism is very flexible. sunrise itself is only a framework where you can plug-in your authentication scheme, so I generally would say, if these standards are usuable within a java servlet you can simply use it in sunrise by writing a simple connector (and believe me this should be a really simple connector and not a hugh project by itself). > We are currently evaluating new technology for our web > architecture and thus > evaluating User Management and Authentication solutions too which > integrate > very well within Websites and Web-Applications and allow customization, > Single-sign-on and Profiling of User- and Application data, > possible backed > by a LDAP authentication. > Is Cocoon sunRise the way to go or am I looking at the wrong place? > This is not an easy question for *me*;) In fact, the answer is simple: if you want to use Cocoon for building your web application, sunRise is afaik the only way to go - and it's a good choice, too :) If you don't want to use Cocoon, well, you can use sunRise. With sunRise you can do single-sign-on, Profiling of User- and Application data, LDAP authentication and many more. We already have done this in some projects... Just let me know if I can provide you more information. Carsten Open Source Group sunShine - b:Integrated ================================================================ Carsten Ziegeler, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn http://www.s-und-n.de mailto: cziegeler@s-und-n.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- The Cocoon Book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/apachecocoona-20 The new weblog homepage: http://ziegeler.bei.t-online.de ================================================================ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: