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From Bert Van Kets <b...@visitronics.be>
Subject RE: What are content management and middleware?
Date Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:34:24 GMT
I have started a discussion on on-line content editing for Cocoon a while 
ago.  The goup then also came to the conclusion that a web-based solution 
would be best, although some people suggested using some local 
application.  My project needs browser based editing since the content will 
be edited by a lot of people who are in very distributed locations.

I recently have gotten a project that needs content editing and is based on 
Cocoon.
My plan is to do either one of the following:
1) create a true JavaScript solution that heavily works with DOM and the 
form data is submitted to the server where the XML stream is created
2) create an applet that does the XML parsing and validating, whereas the 
true editing is done in an HTML form that gets support from 
JavaScript.  the applet sends an XML stream to the server.

Either solution will work with most browsers.
The basic principle remains the same:
- The DTD is analysed and the form logic (Slient side JavaScript) is 
created depending on the result
- The XML node names that can be selected are dependant on the JavaScript 
logic (the content of the list boxes is altered)
- Depending on the node name selected the possible attributes are presented 
by adding form elements.

Any remarks or suggestions?

Bert


At 12:36 9/01/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>just my two cents - I realize it can make things harder to develop in this 
>case - but I've been down this road a number of times - if you make it web 
>based, I think you'll find much broader acceptance. A Java app probably 
>would be more efficient, but if you look at the target users for content 
>management, deployment, installation, and support becomes a concern.
>
>I don't have a vote, but if I did, I cast it everytime for web-based.
>
> > ----------
> > From:         Chris Perrin[SMTP:CPerrin@planetsalvage.com]
> > Reply To:     cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> > Sent:         Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:26 PM
> > To:   'cocoon-users@xml.apache.org'
> > Subject:      RE: What are content management and middleware?
> >
> > I think Java app is the way to go.  Most of this app, in my humble
> > estimation :) is going to be processing and not GUI.
> >
> > How do we get started?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aaldridg@csc.com [mailto:aaldridg@csc.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:58 AM
> > To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: What are content management and middleware?
> >
> >
> > Sounds good to me - free and cross platform has to be the way to go. Could
> > be a Java Application as opposed to a web browser based app though.
> > Probably more efficient.
> >
> > I'd be happy to get involved.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Anthony Aldridge
> > Lead Application developer
> >
> > Managed Intranet Hosting
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris Perrin <CPerrin@planetsalvage.com> on 08/01/2002 15:25:08
> >
> > Please respond to cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> >
> > To:   "'cocoon-users@xml.apache.org'" <cocoon-users@xml.apache.org>
> > cc:
> > Subject:  RE: What are content management and middleware?
> >
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> > My guess is that hte program would not have to be Open Source, but I
> > haven't
> > really read the license well enough.  Either way, you could still charge
> > for
> > it.
> >
> > It sounds like there are enough people who a) need content management b)
> > use
> > Cocoon that their might be a market.
> >
> > I think cross-browser is always nice, albeit unncessary in many cases.  As
> > for platform independence, you could either write the app as a JSP/Servlet
> > solution or use Java/Swing and pretty much be done with it.
> >
> > Anyway, I'd be willing to throw some free time into the project if you'd
> > like.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Koberg [mailto:rob@koberg.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:15 AM
> > To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: What are content management and middleware?
> >
> >
> > > kinda begs the question - who's gonna build the content management GUI on
> > > top of cocoon?
> >
> > Would it have to be free/Open Source?
> >
> > Would you pay for something like this?
> >
> > Is cross-platform/browser support necessary?
> >
> > best,
> > -Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
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