Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-cocoon-users-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 21429 invoked by uid 500); 9 Oct 2001 11:26:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cocoon-users-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 21416 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2001 11:26:02 -0000 Message-ID: From: Riedl Juergen To: "'cocoon-users@xml.apache.org'" Subject: AW: SV: Cocoon examples? Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:25:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N You don't. Tomcat does! But if you like to know what it is inside the war, unzip it. Sometimes = this requires to change the name *.war -> *.zip Juergen > -----Urspr> =FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: S=F8ren Neigaard [SMTP:neigaard@mobilethink.dk] > Gesendet am: Dienstag, 9. Oktober 2001 19:18 > An: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org; 'S=F8ren_Neigaard' > Betreff: SV: SV: Cocoon examples? >=20 > How do I unpack a WAR? >=20 > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: Jeremy Aston [mailto:jeremyaston@yahoo.co.uk] > Sendt: 8. oktober 2001 07:42 > Til: S=F8ren_Neigaard; cocoon-users@xml.apache.org > Emne: Re: SV: Cocoon examples? > =09 > =09 >=20 > Hi Soren,=20 >=20 > Thanks for the comments.=20 >=20 > I'm not sure that the map command you suggest would work however = even it does then I would still use XSP. About 18 months ago I spent = alot of time trying to work out the best way of building multi-lingual, = branded sites using a java architecture. I thought XML/XSL offered = alot of options however did not extend the whole thing to logicsheets. = Once I saw Cocoon and logicsheets I found that someone had written a = full implementation of the stuff I was mucking around with.=20 >=20 > XSP on it's own does not offer a load more over a JSP type approach = however with logicsheets you have alot of power. You have the ability = to embed logic in the logicsheet or mix and match with bean calls to = business logic, just like in JSP, but with a nice XML wrapping around = it. I will be putting some more examples up on cTwIG in the next few = days I hope btw.=20 >=20 > If you compare it with actual servlets then IMHO XSP/Logicsheets/XSL = offers a far better technology for publishing than raw servlets. = Servlets have their place, in non presentational scenarios such as data = exchange or some kind of SOAP environment for example, but I really do = think that the Cocoon approach is the best publishing platform I have = seen.=20 >=20 > In my experience - 99% of the time whatever you munge around with = business logic needs to be displayed. No matter how far you go with a = "MVC" tiered approach, the results of logic have to be stuck into = presenation code. Servlets will not make that easier - well designed = XML/XSP/Logicsheets/XSL does.=20 >=20 > Stepping off his soapbox...=20 >=20 > Jez=20 >=20 > S=F8ren_Neigaard wrote:=20 >=20 > Great intro, thanks :) I'm still confused at one point though (well = more than one, but here the most). I have some businessobjects I want = to retrive data from (maybe as XML), and use this data as input for = Cocoon. How is this done? I absolutly don't want to use XSP (I don't = like the mix of content and logic). Should I set the "" src to point at a servlet that returns XML? This sounds = like a bad idea too me though, but it's my best idea. > =20 > Any ideas? >=20 > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: Jeremy Aston [mailto:jeremyaston@yahoo.co.uk] > Sendt: 8. oktober 2001 01:15 > Til: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org > Emne: Re: Cocoon examples? > =09 > =09 >=20 > Hi Soren,=20 >=20 > You may also want to check out the idiots guide at = =20 >=20 > Best regards=20 >=20 > Jeremy=20 >=20 > S=F8ren_Neigaard wrote:=20 >=20 > Are there any examples shipped with Cocoon2? I'm having some = trubles finding > out how it all works, so maybe some examples where I can see what = to do, all > the way from Java Servlets to XSL? > =09 > Med venlig hilsen/Best regards > S=F8ren Neigaard > ------------------------------- > Mobilethink A/S > Arosgaarden > =C5boulevarden 23, 5.sal > DK - 8000 =C5rhus C > Telefon: +45 86207800 > Direct: +45 86207810 > Fax: +45 86207801 > =09 > =09 > = --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Please check that your question has not already been answered in = the > FAQ before posting.=20 > =09 > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:=20 > For additional commands, e-mail:=20 > =09 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _____ =20 >=20 > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free Yahoo! address at Yahoo! Mail: UK = or IE . > =09 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _____ =20 >=20 > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free Yahoo! address at Yahoo! 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