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From Jesper Rasmussen <...@cs.auc.dk>
Subject Re: SV: SV: Cocoon examples?
Date Tue, 09 Oct 2001 11:22:34 GMT

war is just a jar, which is just a zip

cheers
Jesper
- May the source be with you, Linux -

On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Søren Neigaard wrote:

> How do I unpack a WAR?
>   -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>   Fra: Jeremy Aston [mailto:jeremyaston@yahoo.co.uk]
>   Sendt: 8. oktober 2001 07:42
>   Til: Søren_Neigaard; cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
>   Emne: Re: SV: Cocoon examples?
>
>
>   Hi Soren,
>
>   Thanks for the comments.
>
>   I'm not sure that the map command you suggest would work however even it
> does then I would still use XSP.  About 18 months ago I spent alot of time
> trying to work out the best way of building multi-lingual, branded sites
> using a java architecture.  I thought XML/XSL offered alot of options
> however did not extend the whole thing to logicsheets.  Once I saw Cocoon
> and logicsheets I found that someone had written a full implementation of
> the stuff I was mucking around with.
>
>   XSP on it's own does not offer a load more over a JSP type approach
> however with logicsheets you have alot of power.  You have the ability to
> embed logic in the logicsheet or mix and match with bean calls to business
> logic, just like in JSP, but with a nice XML wrapping around it.  I will be
> putting some more examples up on cTwIG in the next few days I hope btw.
>
>   If you compare it with actual servlets then IMHO XSP/Logicsheets/XSL
> offers a far better technology for publishing than raw servlets.  Servlets
> have their place, in non presentational scenarios such as data exchange or
> some kind of SOAP environment for example, but I really do think that the
> Cocoon approach is the best publishing platform I have seen.
>
>   In my experience - 99% of the time whatever you munge around with business
> logic needs to be displayed.  No matter how far you go with a "MVC" tiered
> approach, the results of logic have to be stuck into presenation code.
> Servlets will not make that easier - well designed XML/XSP/Logicsheets/XSL
> does.
>
>   Stepping off his soapbox...
>
>   Jez
>
>
>
>   Søren_Neigaard <neigaard@mobilethink.dk> wrote:
>
>     Great intro, thanks :) I'm still confused at one point though (well more
> than one, but here the most). I have some businessobjects I want to retrive
> data from (maybe as XML), and use this data as input for Cocoon. How is this
> done? I absolutly don't want to use XSP (I don't like the mix of content and
> logic). Should I set the "<map:generate src=""/>" src to point at a servlet
> that returns XML? This sounds like a bad idea too me though, but it's my
> best idea.
>
>     Any ideas?
>       -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>       Fra: Jeremy Aston [mailto:jeremyaston@yahoo.co.uk]
>       Sendt: 8. oktober 2001 01:15
>       Til: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
>       Emne: Re: Cocoon examples?
>
>
>       Hi Soren,
>
>       You may also want to check out the idiots guide at
> http://www.pigbite.co.uk/ctwig/index.html
>
>       Best regards
>
>       Jeremy
>
>         Søren_Neigaard <neigaard@mobilethink.dk> wrote:
>
>         Are there any examples shipped with Cocoon2? I'm having some trubles
> finding
>         out how it all works, so maybe some examples where I can see what to
> do, all
>         the way from Java Servlets to XSL?
>
>         Med venlig hilsen/Best regards
>         Søren Neigaard
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