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From Ed Nixon <>
Subject RE: [Proposal] C2 + tomcat 4
Date Tue, 02 Oct 2001 14:05:31 GMT
Comments below...

At 09:41 AM 02/10/2001 -0400, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> > From: Alfredas Chmieliauskas []
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: [Proposal] C2 + tomcat 4
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> > It seems that c2 + tomcat4 is the most problematic issue for a couple 
> of weeks already
> > (while it is one of the most used configurations). I myself had a hard 
> time installing
> > it due to did not re-compile, well whatever.
>The funny thing that it's the most easiest combination, comparing to 
>Tomcat 3.x,
>Resin, etc. The only thing you need to do is:
>  - do not use JDK1.4,
>  - do not use CLASSPATH
>  - do not use /ext/ libraries

Two points (or some might think quibbles) about your advice:
1. If true, this information is not well documented... anywhere. To my 
knowledge at least.
2. I'm not exactly sure what you mean or imply by "do not use CLASSPATH" 
but in general it seems like a totally unrealistic constraint to put on an 
installation or operating process. CLASSPATH, whether system or user (in 
the Win2K world) is a basic functionality of Java. Some systems explicitly 
require certain flavors of CLASSPATH to permit functioning.

The only justification for the problems we've had that I can think of is 
that Cocoon is not release level software yet. You're going to be a little 
more forgiving of a problem under those conditions. However, we are now in 
RC phase and I'd be more comfortable if I thought there was a definitive 
explanation and solution to these chimerical problems. One of my concerns 
has to do with subtle and not so subtle dependencies of Cocoon on the 
Apache/Tomcat way of doing things. It doesn't take to much carelessness or 
myopia to build Sun and/or Tomcat dependencies into Cocoon similar to those 
being discovered in Velocity for example.

Your experience differs from a significant number of others.


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