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From "Gritsenko" <gritse...@home.com>
Subject Re: [C2] Possible Solution for PDF Bug with IE 5.x !??
Date Thu, 05 Jul 2001 01:57:22 GMT
good point about IE.

government of canada have standardized on Netscape, by the way.

and WebSphere though that has nothing to do with the above.

viktor

----- Original Message -----
From: "Uli Mayring" <ulim@denic.de>
To: <cocoon-users@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [C2] Possible Solution for PDF Bug with IE 5.x !??


> On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Stefan Seifert wrote:
>
> > Hello (especially Ulrich...).
> >
> > I've took a close look at the Problem with wrong displayed PDFs in IE
> > 5.x. generatet by Coccon-FOP. I had no explanation why it did not work
> > generatet from cocoon directly, but worked perfectly when the same
> > stream saved as a file was served from the file system.
>
> IE does some checks, when it receives something over the web and possibly
> even alters the data. See http://ulim.cocoonhost.com/iebug for an example,
> where it even alters the data.
>
> Recently I posted an URL to a page, that explains some of these checks
> performed by IE. The bottom-line is: IE does weird stuff and doesn't
> comply to the HTTP standard. No user, especially not users of OpenSource
> software, should support this software. You are undermining the OpenSource
> and standards efforts, if you use this browser or develop for customers
> using this browser.
>
> That being said, there are two currently known workarounds, both posted to
> the list recently (setting a content-disposition header or configuring
> Acrobat as external application). Perhaps you have discovered a third
> workaround. But it is not ok to use these workarounds, instead we all
> should discourage people from using IE by *NOT* supporting its bugs. We
> are talking about intentional bugs here, introduced to undermine the
> OpenSource and standards movement.
>
> Plus, it's happened three or four times before: every time we find a
> workaround, Microsoft will change IE in the next version to not support
> this workaround anymore. Then we have to find a new workaround, which will
> work until the next version - but the users of the older versions of IE
> will not be supported anymore. We are not helping users if we go into a
> coding competition with Microsoft.
>
> Ulrich
>
>
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