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From "Piroumian, Konstantin" <KPiroum...@flagship.ru>
Subject Re: How do you build your XSLs?
Date Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:00:18 GMT
> I personally edit XSL in XMLSpy eval version, the only functionality of
> XMLSpy I use is XML validation, sp I don't miss a tag or closing bracket
or
> something like that. Otherwise, Notepad is as good a tool for editing XSL.
>
> Then I run this XSL in pair with data-containing XML through Web browser
> through Cocoon and watch the output in Adobe Acrobat.
>
> Then I make corrections in XSL and run it again.

Why don't you use XML Spy for transformation too? You can setup it to use
Xalan as the transformer. IE transformer is supported by default.
I use XML Spy 3.5 (registered version) to maintain all the xml, xsl and even
html files in the project. Although, it is not a visual XSL editor, it makes
XSL programming very convenient by all that automaticaly closing tags, tag
hints etc.

>
> In parallel, I read :
> Professional XML by Wrox Publishers
> Zvon.org website
> for XSLT and XSL:FO
> details.
>
> If there were an XSL IDE tool, it should take reading of these two sources
> out of the process
> (in other words, it should sense XSL and XSL:Fo syntax and prompt for it,
> like autocomplete words, etc.)
>
> To return to your question, I did'nt found anything resembling this
> imaginary tool, thus I doubt it exists at all.

Take a look at the eXelon Styles. It is advertised as "The most
sophisticated XSLT editor on the market": http://www.stylusstudio.com/eval

>
> I doubt anybody will write this kind of tool, since the need in it is not
> manifesting itself clearly.
> It's like, hello, we have a new programming language, forget Java, we need
> tools for it - and it's called XSL. How many people need it? Not 5 or 6
> million, like Java or VB developers.

I can remeber at least 5 or 6 XSL tools just now and I think you'll find
much more tools if search for them. The problem is that XSL was standartized
only about 6 months ago.

Konstantin

> Sounds childish today, but will be more obvious in two years or so.
>
>
> Viktor
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tibi DONDERA" <tibidondera@hotmail.com>
> To: <cocoon-users@xml.apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 5:07 PM
> Subject: Re: How do you build your XSLs?
>
>
> > Yes, what you say makes lots of sense, but still doesn't answer the
> > question... :(
> > How exactly do you write your XSLT files??
> >
> > Just a thought, though: the basic features of XSLT can be mastered by a
> > non-programmer. It's not that hard. So, IMHO, there can be a tool that
can
> > do that too... (master XSLT basic features).
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gritsenko" <gritsenko@home.com>
> > To: <cocoon-users@xml.apache.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 10:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: How do you build your XSLs?
> >
> >
> > > XSL is a programming language in fact. XSL programs scan XML and
output
> > > something visual or not,
> > > Tools that could help should be akin to IDEs like JBuilder.
> > >
> > > If there is any future for XSL tools, only IDE vendors could creates
> such
> > > tools.
> > > So far they do not see wide demand for these I guess.
> > >
> > > Do I make any sense at all?
> > >
> > > Viktor
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tibi DONDERA" <tibidondera@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <cocoon-users@xml.apache.org>; <tobias@gliderpilot.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:58 PM
> > > Subject: How do you build your XSLs?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Just wondering...
> > > >
> > > > What tools do you use to build your XSL files? Normally, these files
> > > should
> > > > be written by the graphic crew, but I just didn't find any
graphician
> > who
> > > > knows or who is willing to learn XSL.
> > > > So for now, I just take the Html files these guys are doing, and I
> > > manually
> > > > convert them to XSL... This does not really complies with the
> separation
> > > > concept in Cocoon... :(
> > > >
> > > > Anybody else has another approach?
> > > >
> > > > Tiberiu Dondera
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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