Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-cocoon-users-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 77597 invoked by uid 500); 23 May 2001 11:30:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cocoon-users-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 77430 invoked from network); 23 May 2001 11:30:20 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [167.241.105.104] From: "daniel smith" To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Bcc: Subject: Re: Looking for a page description language Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:29:54 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2001 11:29:55.0067 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0A834B0:01C0E37B] X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi. I don't know if this might help you, but the closest thing I've seen to Cocoon (and I'm no expert) seems to be UIML. It is something developed at/around VA Tech. Check it out at uiml.org. Good luck. Dan >From: Tobias Kiesling >Reply-To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org >To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org >Subject: Looking for a page description language >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:02:50 +0200 > >Hi all, > >I am a student and I need some help for a paper I am writing. I would like >to >compare a system I developed with the help of cocoon (especially the >architecture of that system) to similar systems. But first let me explain >the >system we developed: > >In the scope of a university course we implemented a simple web information >system with the help of Cocoon. This surely is no production system, but >rather more academic. We tried very hard to have an extreme separation >between content, logic and style (this is what cocoon is about). This led >to >the creation of an XML language that should represent the pages to be >returned to the client, before fetching data from the database and >transforming the document to the proper transformation medium (we used HTML >and WML). The language was created as a more abstract view on a web page >that should be independant of the particular presentation media, but >powerful >enough to model all possible items that could be present on a web page. >Additionally the language had to be independant of the underlying data >model >(i.e. the structure of the data fetched from the database). >The language can be regarded as a kind of generic page description language >that could be used to model any kind of web page (of course this is an >unproofed claim!). > >My question is, does anybody of you have developed a similar language for >similar purposes. I think that a variant of such a language is needed in >almost every system that uses cocoon, even the samples in the cocoon >distribution use such a page description language. What I am looking for is >a >language that is generic enough to be used with every type of presentation >medium (HTML, WML, VoiceXML, Braille, etc.), but is independant of all >those >media and additionally is independant of the data model of the data to be >presented in this page. > >I have already been looking around for any trace of such a language, but I >didn't find any. If someone of you has developed a similar language, or >knows >of it, please let me know. > >I would really appreciate any help on this! > >Thanks in advance, > Tobias > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Please check that your question has not already been answered in the >FAQ before posting. > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: >For additional commands, e-mail: > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: