Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact cocoon-users-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 20958 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2000 09:11:49 -0000 Received: from frankfurt.denic.de (HELO notes.denic.de) (194.246.96.101) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Nov 2000 09:11:49 -0000 Received: from denic.de ([192.168.0.189]) by notes.denic.de (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.4) with ESMTP id 2000112010105987:101 ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:10:59 +0100 Sender: ulim Message-ID: <3A18F8BF.8CF39A56@denic.de> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:11:11 +0000 From: Ulrich Mayring X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: AW: AW: SQL->XML->???->PDF transformation References: X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on notes/Denic(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 20.11.2000 10:11:00, Serialize by Router on notes/Denic(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 20.11.2000 10:11:29, Serialize complete at 20.11.2000 10:11:29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: locus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Henning von Bargen wrote: > > OK, the PDFs are cool-looking . > But as I understand it, they are created with a commercial(?) tool > and not by writing FO instructions manually. > Has this software also a more ore less WYSIWIG interface to create the > layout? > Do you use it yourself? Well, the company sells a commercial FO => PDF renderer (sort of like fop), but that has nothing to do with XSLFO, which is a W3C standard. I just wanted to show that IS possible to create complex layouts and cool-looking documents with XSLFO. As far as WYSIWYG interfaces go, that is not the job of a FO renderer. A FO renderer just takes XSLFO files and renders them to PDF or whatever. An FO renderer doesn't care how you create the FO files. To create FO files there are currently two ways I am aware of and there will be a third: 1) Write the FO manually. This is tedious, but, like writing TeX in vi, it can be done with enough training. But it doesn't really make any sense. 2) Use an XSLT stylesheet to convert XML to FO. I've used this technique with great success for creating mass mailings, which were customized with data from a database. In the future I expect there to be: 3) Use your favorite page layout app and save the document as XSLFO. Ulrich -- Ulrich Mayring DENIC eG, Systementwicklung