Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact cocoon-users-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-users@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 51426 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2000 18:14:31 -0000 Received: from ns.pvl.at (HELO pvl.pvl.at) (195.230.42.194) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Feb 2000 18:14:31 -0000 Received: from rotmobil (TK212017094248.teleweb.at [212.17.94.248]) by pvl.pvl.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15507 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:14:07 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:13:33 +0100 From: Roman Seidl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.36) S/N 71A1B58D / Educational Reply-To: Roman Seidl Organization: Public Voice Lab X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2801.000216@pvl.at> To: Mike Engelhart Subject: Re[2]: sorry In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mike, Wednesday, February 16, 2000, 6:58:45 PM, you wrote: ME> If you don't want anything to rely on servlets than you'll have to create ME> your own session mechanism as Cocoon does not have any way to keep state. ME> But this begs me to ask why you're using Cocoon if you don't want to rely on ME> servlets?? Cocoon IS a servlet. I know. I want to rely on servlet technology regarding wap or http - but there might be more - well maybe you are right - maybe my ambition to use as much abstraction as possible is a bit too much. I have an existing groupware application that provides several services like workspaces, email, user rights, voting etc. . The core is acessed via corba - you just create a user session and ask for the information you want or call a function. I have been thinking of using xml for a month now and im still not sure what design approach to use. using cocoon still seems like a good idea to me - but theres several problems concerning cocoon: - i have to have a persistent session (no problem in a producer but im not sure wether i want to use a producer for the buisness logic) - i have to serve binary data like files uploaded by users, voice messages or bitmaps mfg Roman Seidl -------------------------------------------------------------------- Roman Seidl Design & Developement -------------------------------------------------------------------- Public Voice Lab Operngasse 24, A-1040 Vienna Tel.: +43-1-585 22 80/23 Fax: +43-1-585 22 80/99 e-mail: rse@pvl.at web: www.pvl.at --------------------------------------------------------------------