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From Josh McCormack <joshmccorm...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: Installing Cocoon [was Re: Documentation update]
Date Mon, 07 Feb 2000 22:53:27 GMT
The dream come true would be a version with Apache and
everything in a make/installer, though I suppose we
then get awfully close to a distribution.... 

Josh

--- Stefano Mazzocchi <stefano@apache.org> wrote:
> Mike Engelhart wrote:
> > 
> > Brett McLaughlin wrote:
> > 
> > > Guys-
> > > >
> > > * Moved instructions to put tools.jar in your
> classpath _above_ running
> > > bootstrap for Ant, since Ant requires it as
> well.
> > > * Removed listing to get Sun Project X, since it
> is in classpath as part
> > > of Ant instructions
> > > * Updated location of Servlet API 2.2, since you
> have to get it with
> > > jakarta-tomcat now.
> > > * Added complete list of actual jar files that
> should be in the
> > > classpath.  This helps the novice not do things
> like put xt.zip (which
> > > contains xt.jar) in their classpath and get
> frustrated when things don't
> > > work.
> > >
> > > Could someone please commit this thing?  It
> works as of today, Cocoon
> > > 1.6.2, latest and greatest src builds with these
> instructions.  Thanks.
> > >
> > > -Brett
> > > Index: build.xml
> > I was just thinking about the ease of
> building/installing cocoon and
> > wondering that maybe we could have available for
> download a mega-jar of all
> > needed classes (assuming license restrictions
> don't get in the way).  I
> > mean, there's xalan, xerces, ant, FOP, fesi,
> gnuregex, JSDK and of course
> > Cocoon all open source licensed which comprises
> the standard required
> > downloads. I think this would take a lot of
> confusion out of the install for
> > beginners and make it a hell of lot easier to
> upgrade to a new version when
> > one is released?  I guess we'd have to test the
> combination but even if it's
> > just the standard latest releases, that would
> probably take care of the
> > majority of folks.
> 
> Ok,
> 
> since _many_ think that installing Cocoon is a pain
> in the ass (I'm the
> first one of them!), we'll try to make it easier.
> 
> This means:
> 
> 1) DCP will be removed from main distribution in
> Cocoon 1.7: for those
> who still need DCP, we'll provide an external
> package. (so FESI
> requirement is gone)
> 2) MapProducer will be removed too as above (so
> gnuregex is gone)
> (anyway, is anybody using it?)
> 3) there will be a new distribution that will
> include
> 
>  - Cocoon
>  - Xerces
>  - Xalan
>  - FOP
>  - Ant
>  - Servlet API 2.2
> 
> (the other optional packages are left to download if
> wanted)
> 
> Now, how do we do this in order to simplify both
> installation and futher
> evolution? Alternatives are:
> 
> 1) cocoon-<version>.jar includes both docs/samples
> and class files in
> the right place so it can be installed by simply
> dropping it in your
> classpath up front. Cocoon could also work out with
> the samples directly
> from the classpath and also serve documentations.
> 
> 2) cocoon-<version>.zip and cocoon-<version>.tar.gz
> (I'd need a
> volunteer for the tar.gz distro, Donald?). Flavors
> could be:
> 
>  a) one big jar file with everything inside
>  b) a dir with all the jar packages and their
> version (might simplify
> evolution in case one wants to upgrade the module
> without upgrading
> cocoon, allows better parallelization of
> development)
>  c) ???
> 
> 3) come up with your own way of installing Cocoon,
> we are all very open
> to any kind of suggestions to make this process easy
> (use a java
> installer? which one? is it free? how does it work
> with servlets?)
> 
> Anyway, if you think Cocoon is painful to install,
> please, help us
> making it easier.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> -- 
> Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in
> oneself to be
>                           able to give birth to a
> dancing star.
> <stefano@apache.org>                            
> Friedrich Nietzsche
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