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From d...@cocoon.apache.org
Subject [Cocoon Wiki] Updated: XFormsInCocoon
Date Fri, 01 Oct 2004 20:43:16 GMT
   Date: 2004-10-01T13:43:16
   Editor: LarsHuttar <larsspam@huttar.net>
   Wiki: Cocoon Wiki
   Page: XFormsInCocoon
   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/XFormsInCocoon

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Change Log:

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@@ -4,7 +4,14 @@
 
 Additions and corrections are welcome.
 
-Potential approaches:
+== Whether to use XForms ==
+
+Let me start by pointing readers to Sylvain Wallez's meaty [http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=105881304808076&w=2
meditation] on the pros and cons of XMLForms (an implementation of XForms in Cocoon) and Woody
(known today as CForms). Sylvain points out some reasons why he feels XForms is not adequate
for the forms requirements of certain kinds of server-based web applications.
+
+
+== How to use XForms ==
+
+= Potential approaches =
 
 As I looked for XForms implementations, my ideal was an open-source package that would allow
client-side XForms functionality without users having to install additional software (such
as a plugin).
 
@@ -14,10 +21,9 @@
 
  * (Side note: The Web Service Proxy in Cocoon 2.1 depends on XMLForms, but the samples for
the proxy in 2.1.5.1 did not work for me. I don't know if that is because XMLForms was removed,
or what. If this sample is no longer expected to work, it should probably be marked as such.
Too bad; it sounds like a useful thing.)
 
- * Chiba (http://chiba.sourceforge.net/) is a servlet webapp (i.e. like a sibling of Cocoon
rather than its child) that implements XForms. I'm not sure how easy it would be to use Chiba
from within Cocoon.
-There is a project called Chicoon whose purpose is to integrate Chiba into Cocoon. The latest
available release, 0.1, is not compatible with recent versions of Chiba or Cocoon, but the
author says "I have been working on Chicoon and posted revised source code to the Chiba CVS
repository recently, so it is hardly dormant.  More to come in the way of revised code and
docs very shortly." If another release has occurred since 0.1, please correct this wiki page.
In the last release there was little documentation on how to use chicoon.
+ * Chiba (http://chiba.sourceforge.net/) is a servlet webapp (i.e. like a sibling of Cocoon
rather than its child) that implements XForms. I'm not sure how easy it would be to use Chiba
from within Cocoon. There is a project called Chicoon whose purpose is to integrate Chiba
into Cocoon. The latest available release, 0.1, is not compatible with recent versions of
Chiba or Cocoon, but the author says "I have been working on Chicoon and posted revised source
code to the Chiba CVS repository recently, so it is hardly dormant.  More to come in the way
of revised code and docs very shortly." If another release has occurred since 0.1, please
correct this wiki page. In the last release there was little documentation on how to use chicoon.
 
-=== Experiences with Mozquito DENG ===
+= Experiences with Mozquito DENG =
 
 Looking through the list at [http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/#implementations] (which still
lists Cocoon XMLForms, btw), I found "Mozquito DENG zero-install XForms". (Another helpful
XForms implementation list is at [http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/09/10/xforms.html?page=1].)
 
@@ -62,6 +68,6 @@
 
 The caveats don't seem to bad for the time being. Moreover, I feel comfortable with them
because I'm not locked in. If I decide on a different solution, I should be able to repurpose
the XForms output to some other renderer, such as Chicoon, without much trouble. I haven't
done this yet, but I will most likely create an "insert DENG object" transformer that isolates
any DENG-specific code from the rest.
 
-
+== Feedback and synergy ==
 
 I would be interested in hearing from others about their experiences with Cocoon and XForms.

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