Hi all,
I have just migrated to maven site generation and XDOC format the cocoon-main-site [1] and also published the re-generated pages: please take a look at our website and let us know if there is something to fix.

I'll continue this migration process for all other subsites under [2].

While taking a closer look to main site content, I've noticed some issues:

* News in home page MUST be updated: I think we can add there the release of C3 alpha-2 and alpha-3 and the availability of C2.1 and C3 samples in cocoon.zones.apache.org

* Professional Services [3]: some links are broken + I would like to add my company (Tirasa); other interested?

* Weblogs [4]: some links are broken + I would like to add my own blog; other interested?

* Products [5]: latest HippoCMS releases are not based on Cocoon anymore + MindQuarry seems not to be operational anymore + I would like to add Hippo Cocoon Toolkit [6]; other interested?

* Live Sites [7]: each entry there should be reviewed

* How to contribute [8]: it's all about how to run Daisy for documentation; I would wipe it completely and replace with something more general about how to contribute to Cocoon

* How to publish docs [9]: obsolete, update or remove

* How to build the site locally [10]: obsolete, update or remove

* Releasing Cocoon [11]: update / remove Daisy information

* Project Team [12]: someone went emeritus, new people has been added


[1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/trunk/site/cocoon-main-site
[2] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/trunk/site/
[3] http://cocoon.apache.org/1271_1_1.html
[4] http://cocoon.apache.org/1271_1_1.html
[5] http://cocoon.apache.org/1365_1_1.html
[6] https://forge.onehippo.org/gf/project/hct/
[7] http://cocoon.apache.org/706_1_1.html
[8] http://cocoon.apache.org/1273_1_1.html
[9] http://cocoon.apache.org/1418_1_1.html
[10] http://cocoon.apache.org/1256_1_1.html
[11] http://cocoon.apache.org/1199_1_1.html
[12] http://cocoon.apache.org/team-list.html

On 17/03/2012 13:48, Simone Tripodi wrote:
+1 for option #2, I like keeping the doc under control and in a format
can be deployed wherever :)

For that purpose, I just launched the VOTE thread for the Thien Skin 1.0.1.

Thanks for leading this, all the best!


2012/3/16 Francesco Chicchiriccò <ilgrosso@apache.org>:
Hi all,
yesterday, while looking at cocoon.zones.apache.org, I've spent some time at
our website, and the e-mail below came into my mind.

I believe we should act in this respect as soon as possible, since our
outdated website is all but attractive and informative: think only that
every page reports "Errors and Improvements? If you see any errors or
potential improvements in this document please help us: View, Edit or
comment on the latest development version (registration required)." pointing
to a non-existing Daisy instance.

Taking the attached e-mail into account, I think we should choose whether:

1. try to resurrect a Daisy instance in our jail - with Betrand's help /
manage somehow 2.1 docs with forrest;

2. use Cocoon to parse existing HTML files (for C2.2 and C2.1) and generate
a bunch of xdoc/apt files that will serve as a basis for managing a whole
maven / svnsubpub based website (like as we're currently doing for C3);

3. use Apache CMS and try to import all existing documentation (including
C3's, in this case) - as suggested by David in the e-mail below;

I am for (2) and can spend some time for this, with some other volunteer, of
course ;-)


On 16/01/2012 14:21, David Crossley wrote:
Use the Apache CMS for at least our top-level docs
and the stalled 2.1 and 2.2 docs.

However, i cannot actually do this work, just explain and guide.

I have done some background research to try to gather the
various past threads and docs. Perhaps this will help us to
bring the Cocoon documentation back to life.

In the past we had the sources for the docs in xml format
and then processed by Apache Forrest to generate the html pages.

A few years ago we moved to using the Daisy CMS to store/edit
all content for 2.1 and 2.2 versions, as well as the top-level
project non-version-specific stuff.

For Cocoon-2.2, and the top-level stuff, the Maven site plugin
extracted the content from Daisy and generated the html pages. [4]

For Cocoon-2.1, the Forrest plugin "Daisy input plugin" extracted
the content from Daisy and generated the html pages. [5]

For Cocoon-3, the source content is stored in xml files
and the Maven site plugin generates the html pages.

All generated html was (and still is) committed to the
Cocoon "site" SVN [1].

Then 'svn up' on the people.apache.org machine does the
publishing step. (Later that step could move to using svnpubsub.)

The Daisy server operated on our Zones machine cocoon.zones.apache.org
(which also housed the demonstrations for Cocoon 2.1 and 2.2).
The Zones server is managed by the Cocoon project. See [2].

However, the machine that provided the zones for a set of
projects needed to be upgraded. The Cocoon project did not
move our services in time.
IIRC we do now have a "freebsd jail" which is basically configured,
but not yet re-installed Daisy or Cocoon demo examples,
nor the web server.
IIRC we did get a backup of the Daisy data [3] if that helps.

The Forrest forrestbot neededi to be turned off, as it could not
access the source content for the 2.1 documentation.

For the 2.2 documentation, i presume that Maven also has troubles.

So unless someone can re-instate the new cocoon.zones.apache.org
and the Daisy server, then we need some other solution.

Suggestion to use the Apache CMS:

One other solution would be to use the new Apache CMS. [7]

It can have source content in either Markdown format
or in HTML format and perhaps others.

To resurrect the content, we might be able to use the
last published "generated" set of html documents, strip off
the outer headers and menu stuff, replace with basic header,
and use that set of content to seed the CMS.

(Some of these resources are only available to Cocoon PMC members.)

[1] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/site/site/


[3] Search the PMC archive for various email from Bertrand

[4] http://cocoon.apache.org/1418_1_1.html
How to publish docs to cocoon.apache.org
(i.e. for Cocoon-2.2 and the top-level of c.a.o)

[5] http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/CocoonWebsiteUpdate
How to publish Cocoon-2.1 docs

[7] Apache CMS
Francesco Chicchiriccò

Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member