From dev-return-103329-apmail-cocoon-dev-archive=cocoon.apache.org@cocoon.apache.org Mon Jan 16 14:05:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3BB7B84E for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 84601 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jan 2012 14:05:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 84511 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jan 2012 14:05:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 84504 invoked by uid 99); 16 Jan 2012 14:05:11 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:05:11 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [195.130.132.50] (HELO jacques.telenet-ops.be) (195.130.132.50) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:05:03 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] ([84.196.135.42]) by jacques.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id NE4i1i00f0v3Rks0JE4ihU; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:04:43 +0100 Message-ID: <4F142E7A.6020701@pandora.be> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:04:42 +0100 From: Jos Snellings User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Porting to current cocoon version References: <4F14275A.6010104@pandora.be> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080600080504050408070207" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080600080504050408070207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Wolfram, The first. Cocoon 3 is rather a complete rewrite of the framework. The benefit: the dependencies of the framework have been limited to a minimum. A half-advantage: the scripting capabilities have been limited to stringtemplate. This sort of enforces scripts to do 'strictly presentation'. The minus side: old xsp scripts have to be rewritten. It all depends on how many xsp and flow scripts you have out there. Kind regards, Jos On 01/16/2012 02:54 PM, Wolfram Eisert wrote: > Hello Jos, > > does that mean there is no xsp available in Cocoon 3 at all or that > it's just not recommended? > > Wolfram > > 2012/1/16 Jos Snellings > > > Dear mr. Eisert, > > 1. I believe it does. I am using the beta version in a > "preproduction environment" for quite some time and it is stable. > 2. It depends on what you mean by configuration. The sitemap will > need some slight adaptations. > Specifics from cocoon 2.2 will no longer hold. > - no flowscripts > - xsp is "banned" > There is a nonvanishing upgrade effort. > 3. no, it should be written. I never used all of cocoon 2.x, but > from my experience: > - start project from 'cocoon sample and cocoon sample webapp' > - plan need for conversion scripts > - adapt sitemap > - adjust configuration (which is now essentially spring > configuration) > > it depends a great deal on what you have been using in cocoon 2.x. > > Jos > > > On 01/16/2012 12:51 PM, Wolfram Eisert wrote: >> Dear List, >> >> we are currently using Cocoon 2.0.4 and plan to update to a newer >> version during this year. >> >> For that I have a few questions: >> >> * Does it make sense to wait for Cocoon 3.0? >> * Is the configuration compatible between Cocoon 2.2 and >> Cocoon 3.0? >> * Is there a "howto" for moving from Cocoon 2.0.4 to a >> current Version? >> >> Thank you for your answers. >> >> Wolfram > > > > > -- > _ > _ > Philasearch.com GmbH > Lindenweg 1 > D-63877 Sailauf > Tel. 06093-932933 > > Geschäftsführer: Franz Fedra, Wolfram Eisert, Walter Christ > Steuer-Nr.:204 135 10911 Finanzamt Aschaffenburg > Umsatzsteuer- > Identifikationsnummer > gemäß § 27 a Umsatzsteuergesetz: DE 112156180 > --------------080600080504050408070207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Wolfram,

The first. Cocoon 3 is rather a complete rewrite of the framework.
The benefit: the dependencies of the framework have been limited to a minimum.
A half-advantage: the scripting capabilities have been limited to stringtemplate. This sort of enforces scripts to do 'strictly presentation'.
The minus side:  old xsp scripts have to be rewritten.
It all depends on how many xsp and flow scripts you have out there.

Kind regards,
Jos

On 01/16/2012 02:54 PM, Wolfram Eisert wrote:
Hello Jos,

does that mean there is no xsp available in Cocoon 3 at all or that it's just not recommended?

Wolfram

2012/1/16 Jos Snellings <Jos.Snellings@pandora.be>
Dear mr. Eisert,

1.  I believe it does. I am using the beta version in a "preproduction environment" for quite some time and it is stable.
2. It depends on what you mean by configuration. The sitemap will need some slight adaptations.
    Specifics from cocoon 2.2 will no longer hold.
    - no flowscripts
    - xsp is "banned"
    There is a nonvanishing upgrade effort.
3. no, it should be written. I never used all of cocoon 2.x, but from my experience:
    - start project from 'cocoon sample and cocoon sample webapp'
    - plan need for conversion scripts
    - adapt sitemap
    - adjust configuration (which is now essentially spring configuration)
   
it depends a great deal on what you have been using in cocoon 2.x.

Jos


On 01/16/2012 12:51 PM, Wolfram Eisert wrote:
Dear List,

we are currently using Cocoon 2.0.4 and plan to update to a newer version during this year.

For that I have a few questions:
  • Does it make sense to wait for Cocoon 3.0?
  • Is the configuration compatible between Cocoon 2.2 and Cocoon 3.0?
  • Is there a "howto" for moving from Cocoon 2.0.4 to a current Version?
Thank you for your answers.

Wolfram




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