Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 29867 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2009 12:20:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Feb 2009 12:20:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 81263 invoked by uid 500); 12 Feb 2009 12:20:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 80950 invoked by uid 500); 12 Feb 2009 12:20:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 80935 invoked by uid 99); 12 Feb 2009 12:20:49 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:20:49 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of ap-cocoon-dev@m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.2 as permitted sender) Received: from [80.91.229.2] (HELO ciao.gmane.org) (80.91.229.2) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:20:40 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LXaY7-0006Yc-Sd for dev@cocoon.apache.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:20:11 +0000 Received: from host108-221-static.24-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it ([87.24.221.108]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:20:11 +0000 Received: from lmorandini by host108-221-static.24-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:20:11 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: dev@cocoon.apache.org From: Luca Morandini Subject: Re: Spring Configurator Docs Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:20:01 +0100 Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <4993E3B3.507@apache.org> <7C655C04B6F59643A1EF66056C0E095E01F90B29@eusex01.sweden.ecsoft> <4993F048.7000701@apache.org> <49940222.7050901@searchevent.co.uk> Reply-To: lmorandini@ieee.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host108-221-static.24-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081119) In-Reply-To: <49940222.7050901@searchevent.co.uk> Sender: news X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org David Legg wrote: > I have to agree that the current documentation system is a bit of a > nightmare. > > As I see it there are too many hurdles that have to be passed through > before documents become visible to the general public. I had a go at > updating a few pages using the Daisy system. Editing an existing > document is easy enough but I never had the time to learn how to drive > the navigation sytem... and I suspect nobody else did either ;-) This > is why moving between docs is so difficult. Well, Daisy has a rather flexible way of grouping documents by using "collections" (one document may belong to more than one collection); I understand this is different from the strictly hierarchical way of, say, Confluence... but it is easier to maintain too. > Also it might have seemed like a brilliant idea to extract documentation > directly out of the code but that actually adds a further barrier to > getting it done as you are then faced with updating the code when all > you wanted to do was write about it. One has to choose the lesser of two evils: steeper learning curve vs probable de-synchronization of docs from the actual code... I'd say the former is the less harmful. > The final hurdle is that even after you have edited the page and made it > active it still isn't visible on the main Cocoon site until some arcane > command line incantations are performed. I think having a staging docbase is not bad at all, it lets you revise stuff before being published, not to mention the better performance of the published site. > Bring back the wiki I say! I beg to differ ;) Regards, -------------------- Luca Morandini www.lucamorandini.it --------------------