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From Luca Morandini <>
Subject Re: Where is Cocoon 3 going to?
Date Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:19:58 GMT
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
> I know this mail brings more questions than answers, and Cocoon has to 
> reinvent itself, both from a technical and a community point of view. 
> Are we ready for this reinvention? Can a consensus emerge on what it 
> should be? The answer is ours.

To put it succinctly: Cocoon has, mostly, failed to be a popular 
one-stop framework for web application development, and this while the 
focus on XML faded, leaving Cocoon a bit passè.

As a matter of fact, I am now developing using the Hibernate/Cocoon 
2.2/DoJo stack in RESTful-style applications, and still found the 
sitemap a breeze to use for managing the URI- and HTTP methods- space, 
but I renounced to continuations and Cocoon Forms (not RESTful enough).

In the end, I think Cocoon is great for views (XML processing, i18n, 
URI-space management), so-and-so for controllers (which should be on the 
client anyway), irrelevant for models.

Hmm... given the above, I'd rather concentrate on views and sitemap, 
like: standardizing the expression language between sitemap and JX 
templates, better support to JSON, etc.

Just my 0.2€.

> Thanks for reading so far.

Don't mention, it was a pleasure.


If people keep insisting on functional languages, I will launch my bid 
for a total conversion of Cocoon to the one and only OO language: 
Smalltalk !

    Luca Morandini

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