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From Andreas Hartmann <>
Subject Re: [OT] Mac OS X and Java development
Date Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:50:57 GMT
Joerg Heinicke schrieb:
> On 03.04.2008 23:33, Jörg Heinicke (JIRA) wrote:
>> With Mac OS X I also have no access to the source code of the JDK.
> Which makes me wonder again how to do serious Java development with Mac 
> OS X. I know a few of you guys are using Mac OS X. How do you do it? 

I switched from Windows to Mac 4 years ago, and the only things I'm 
missing are Half-Life and Strikeforce :) The time I used to spend on 
installing ZoneAlarm & Co. is now happily spent on keyboard shortcut 
configuration in Eclipse.

> Whenever I start this I get annoyed very fast. The missing Java sources 
> are only the tip of the iceberg. Every tree representation in Eclipse 
> just sucks.

The indentation is a bit wide, and the horizontal scrolling is annoying, 
but maybe that's why Apple has invented the mighty mouse (which I, alas, 
do not possess) :)

> Keyboard navigation in Mac OS X is completely inconsistent, 
> especially with Java programs. There seems to be no serious SVN command 
> line client (or at least the CollabNet download page is just 
> self-linking at the moment: 

I use the Metissian subversion client, and I didn't notice any problems yet.

Speaking of which: Windows doesn't have a serious command-line at all, 
or has this changed with Vista? cygwin doesn't come close to a native 
Unix IMO.

> And so on ... Windows 
> has also bunch of annoying issues but there is at least consistency and 
> usually there is a solution for everything. Do you guys all switch to 
> Linux when it comes to Java development? :)

IMO the situation with Java is quite acceptable. Porting shell scripts 
from a Linux environment is a PITA, though.

-- Andreas

Andreas Hartmann, CTO
BeCompany GmbH
Tel.: +41 (0) 43 818 57 01

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