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From Grzegorz Kossakowski <>
Subject Re: [vote] Release Cocoon 2.2-final
Date Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:11:08 GMT
Andreas Hartmann pisze:
> Luca Morandini schrieb:
>> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>>> It would be great to have better docs, but honestly who is going to 
>>> write them? 
>> Some (most ?) of it has been already written, it's just a matter of 
>> copying it from Javadoc (or 2.1 docs pages) to the 2.2 ones, and check 
>> its currentness, of course.
>>> We might not get some new users because of bad docs, but we might get 
>>> people really interested in a new Cocoon. 
>> Does it mean we already gave up with attracting new users ?
>> What's the "mission" of 2.2 then ?
>> As I see it, this release has the potential of attracting new users to 
>> a leaner, meaner Cocoon, but then we should be able to greet them 
>> appropriately.
>> As for "old" users: I can talk only for myself, but I think 2.2 is 
>> great for new projects only, since it doesn't pay to Springify and 
>> Mavenize old ones.
> I don't think so - that depends on the situation. We at Lenya will have 
> to upgrade sooner or later, otherwise we'd lose touch with the Cocoon 
> community and we'd have to backport all fixes and improvements. Most 
> people who maintain an ongoing project will do the migration, whether it 
> makes sense from a technological point of view or not.
> Regarding documentation: In my experience, one of the best ways for 
> creating docs is via personal "marketing". When people create a tutorial 
> on their blogs or a presentation for a conference, the effort to move 
> these contents to the project docs isn't that big (a big chunk of the 
> Lenya documentation was developed this way). Maybe some of the 
> developers could provide their slides? Even some links to 
> could certainly be helpful.

That's some kind of idea... Need to blow cobweb away from my blog.. :-)


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