Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 937 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2008 16:15:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Mar 2008 16:15:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 25717 invoked by uid 500); 26 Mar 2008 16:15:39 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cocoon-dev-archive@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 25663 invoked by uid 500); 26 Mar 2008 16:15:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cocoon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cocoon.apache.org Received: (qmail 25652 invoked by uid 99); 26 Mar 2008 16:15:39 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:15:39 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [68.230.240.8] (HELO eastrmmtao102.cox.net) (68.230.240.8) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:14:57 +0000 Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080326161507.EIGL13948.eastrmmtao102.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:15:07 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([24.255.120.190]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id 5sF71Z00846aSr402sF79o; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:15:07 -0400 Message-Id: From: Vadim Gritsenko To: dev@cocoon.apache.org In-Reply-To: <47EA735E.6050209@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: JNet integration Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:15:07 -0400 References: <47E509B2.7050003@tuffmail.com> <47E50A75.8090001@apache.org> <47E51B61.2050701@tuffmail.com> <47E7F20D.3020308@tuffmail.com> <47E8A7CE.6040508@apache.org> <47E9061C.5030105@tuffmail.com> <47E911D9.9040503@apache.org> <47E9B1CA.6050202@gmx.de> <47E9FC91.3080004@apache.org> <47EA37F4.3000206@gmx.de> <47EA3BB0.5090303@apache.org> <47EA4624.8020600@gmx.de> <47EA4AB3.3090403@apache.org> <47EA6726.4070208@gmx.at> <47EA735E.6050209@gmx.at> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Mar 26, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Steven Dolg wrote: > Vadim Gritsenko schrieb: >> On Mar 26, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Steven Dolg wrote: >>> >>> Carsten Ziegeler schrieb: >>>> The pipeline writer needs to know how uri resolving works. He >>>> needs to know what input values are allowed, what relative values >>>> mean etc. >>>> >>>> But I will turn around the questions :) What caching do you need? >>>> The ultra complex caching we currently have which can cache >>>> partial pipelines? Or just the result of a pipeline? >>> I believe this is a very important question. >> >> Not really. Partial pipeline caching is implemented completely by >> the pipeline using all already existing APIs which were used by >> regular caching. From the perspective of pipeline class users, or >> from the perspective of classes which pipeline uses, there is no >> difference between using 'partial-response-caching' and 'complete- >> response-caching' pipelines. The distinction is only in private >> implementation details. > I completely agree. > But aren't we the ones talking about those "private implementation > details"... > And on the other hand: If partial vs. complete caching makes no > difference for the user/caller, why bother maintaining both? It means no difference in the code, but for the user it has a real benefit - user does not have to be an expert in cocoon caching, partial response caching will give him better performance without him expending an effort into optimizing his sitemap. Vadim