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From "Juanjo Vázquez" <>
Subject Re: [RT] RESTful web applications
Date Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:57:25 GMT

I think this is a really great idea. In the past months, I have been working
with AJAX-RESTful architectures. For instance, I have mixed Ext js [1] with
Cocoon 2.2 as XML provider and SOAP Web Services as services provider.

Although, I think Cocoon 2.2 is a too big stuff if only it´s dedicated to
produce XML. A "microCocoon" could be a goog idea.




On Dec 5, 2007 3:16 PM, Reinhard Poetz <> wrote:

> Sylvain Wallez wrote:
> > Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> >
> > <snip/>
> >
> >> For me those are the reasons why I said that I have changed the camp
> >> and think that Stefano was right with his opinion that traditional web
> >> frameworks would become obsolete. But, in contrast to him, I think
> >> that Cocoon, which in some respect isn't 'traditional' at all, can
> >> become the ideal server-side counterpart for such RESTful web
> >> applications.
> >
> > Interesting! Can you elaborate on why you think Cocoon is great for
> > RESTful applications? Is it because of its URL pattern matching
> features?
> That's one half of the story. The other one is XML pipelines and content
> aggregation on an XML level (XML plays in many RESTful architectures an
> important role, at least in ours) which make Cocoon still very appealing
> to me.
> Actually all three together are the virus that has infected me long time
> ago at
> the good old Cocoon 2.0alphaX days.
>                                       - o -
> Recently I've been thinking more and more about some kind of
> "Micro-Cocoon"[*]
> that consists of
>  o a slimmed-down sitemap language available in as an XML and as a Java
> dialect
>    (no component declarations, no sub-sitemaps, no resources, merged
>     match/select),
>  o a controller implementation that is optimized for being used in RESTful
>    scenarios (similar to Apples) and
>  o a lean forms framework that borrows some ideas from Webforms 2.0 and
>    follows the principles of REST. Daniel and I had some discussions about
> it in
>    Rome and I've started with some experiments but don't have anything
>    substantial so far.
> All the parts mentioned above should be useable in parallel with a
> traditional Cocoon 2.2 application. Thanks to the servlet-service
> framework this
> shouldn't be too hard to be achieved.
> If this sounds interesting to anybody, just let me know.
> [*] borrowing the term "micro" from Bertrand who used it for a slimmed
> down
> version of Sling which seems to be another (too) huge beast in the webapp
> framework arena.
> --
> Reinhard Pötz                            Managing Director, {Indoqa} GmbH
> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member, PMC Chair
> _________________________________________________________________________

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