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From Torsten Curdt <>
Subject Re: spring webflow
Date Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:41:09 GMT

On 16.07.2007, at 15:35, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:

> Torsten Curdt wrote:
>>> I really, really want to integrate Cocoon with Spring WebFlow as I
>>> feel that that is a much more workable solution than trying to build
>>> applications using flowscript or javaflow and this only really makes
>>> sense with 2.2 since it is Spring based.
>> You brought this already a couple of times.
>> Years and years ago (when I was still working at dff) we developed  
>> a xml
>> based flow engine way before what we call flow these days existed. It
>> was so horrible to maintain that we dropped it. Maybe just the  
>> lack of
>> tools ...or maybe just the lack of resources writing those  
>> tools ...but
>> I am still afraid when ever someone pushes into a similar direction.
>> There was also a talk at FOSDEM about such an approach and I only  
>> barely
>> could hold back to comment during his talk ...he was so excited and
>> convinced about the solution. For us just a minimal flow resulted  
>> in so
>> much xml ...bah! Make sure you evaluate it's what you really want  
>> before
>> you go down that road.
>> Just my 2 cents
> To be honest I'm not sure if javascript is better than xml :)'s just less verbose :)

> Though I
> don't like both of them when it comes to describing a flow, Spring
> Webflow as imho to big plus points: a visual editor and it's well  
> known
> outside of Cocoon. This doesn't imply that it's really better or  
> better
> usable.

I guess those were also the two things that we were missing those  
days :)


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